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First images I've seen of the proposed renovation of the X, et al. Assuming all the images are accurate and up to date here is what I'm seeing going through each image

Looks like a full rework of the entrance at 7th and Kellogg, including relocating the ticket office and possible a restaurant with ...

Man, this forum hates St Paul!


I, for one, love Minneapolis' biggest suburb.

In all seriousness, I think historically a lot of bad decisions and good money have been spent maintaining the idea that Saint Paul is literally a twin (and not just geographically a twin city) and deserves to have ...

I mean what are we even doing here, 8 years and $450 to $550 million for what amounts to a aBRT route with some dedicated lanes. I never wonder why people oppose transit funding when they are presented with idea like this

Another body blow for DT St. Paul

https://www.yahoo.com/news/st-paul-alli ... p_catchall

I would add that the distance between MSP & Denver, roughly 850 miles, is so great that it would almost be impossible for a HSR link to complete with air travel time wise or even cost wise. If everything was absolutely perfect you could possibly get an express train in about 4:45ish. Flights are ...

I really wish they could rotate the building 90 degrees so that the main 2 level facade is facing Washington. My grand vision would be to tear basically the entire 1 level part of the building but leaving the facade and building a Neo-Classical Carlyle sized condo tower in the center of the block ...

Maybe, hopefully some movement on a new Central Station development per Fred Melo https://www.yahoo.com/news/downtown-st-paul-flaherty-collins-213400716.html

Nothing spectacular but really solid from a developer out of Indianapolis. 20 stories of apartments on the NE corner and 6 stories along 4th ...

I would guess that pretty much any concept moving into the old Betty Danger's space was going to have to embrace the ferris wheel at least and maybe the mini-golf. Removing either of those two things would probably be expensive and why take away a revenue generators vs maximizing the potential

2 things worth noting that any redevelopment is going to have to overcome 1. the building is on the National Register of Historic Places and 2. it's named after Paul Wellstone and there will absolutely be loud complaints from some corners based on that as ridiculous as it sounds.

The first step ...

I'm usually the guy who rips public bodies for not thinking and planning 3 steps ahead on stuff like this so when they do it plan and design ahead to prevent future problems I will give them the credit they deserve.

Getting this done would be a great move by the Council I hope they get it done in ...

I think 6 cents on the dollar means it lost 94% of its value, not 99.94%. But in any case, I still maintain that the value was lost awhile ago, it's just only being realized now. It is indeed terrible that we're losing such property values, but it's a done thing at this point - optimizing among ...

I mean it absolutely could have been a worse outcome but an asset losing 99.94% of it's value in less than a decade is pretty fucking terrible no matter the large forces around it.

So, uh the Ameriprise building sold for 6 CENTS on the dollar vs 2016. So that's the exact opposite of fun.

- That same mayor's favorite constituency is the downtown business community who equate "I can see a poor person from my office" with "crime is out of control."


I generally appreciate your point that you are trying to make here but comments phrased like this are completely unhelpful and ...

Whispers, it's only about 12 miles from Bloomington Central Station to EP Town Center Station mostly via American.

Think the GOP would buy a MN version of this bill as permitting reform and as a way to make it easier and quicker to build things?

https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2025/01/17 ... nt-review/

If you were to poll Capitol insiders on when a budget gets passed, I wonder what the average date would be

I think there is a big difference in postponing a project for a few years to better line up with other planned construction work. To me that's a valid reason to delay an upgrade. On the other hand delaying a project for years because of engagement and process because engagement and process makes us ...

From the outside when it comes to transit planning the time spent talking & planning vs the time spent doing seems way off. For what largely amounts to an upgraded bus route how in the world does it take 5 years to figure that out? I get that funding isn't always available but how does it take ...

What bothers me most about studies is how often the results are just ignored by leaders and the population at large. Why pay an expert to tell you something if aren't going to listen to it? Just save the $1.3 million in study costs and put the shovel in the ground now, you'll save a few additional ...