Re: Vikings Stadium
Posted: September 4th, 2012, 7:14 am
^I thought something pretty similar myself while watching the game, and then also thought "why can't Minneapolis look more like Dublin?" What a cool city!
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And whomever created that photo didn't realize that the grid in our downtown runs at a 45 degree angle to the rest of the city......meaning, you wouldn't see the grid by looking down Chicago Avenue, like the photo shows.Have you ever seen the Metrodome's configuration for basketball? Have you ever seen Lucas Oil's configuration for basketball? That's what the comparison is all about. The concept of a multipurpose NFL stadium has changed, and Lucas Oil and Cowboys Stadium are the prime examples.
It's starting to feel like a broken record, but even regardless of that, the Vikings' renderings hardly resemble Lucas Oil Stadium in any meaningful way. The only renderings that have been reminiscent of LAS at all -- that I can remember -- have been the Farmer's Market drawings, which I don't think were created by the Vikings anyway.
I'm not pro-Lucas Oil Stadium for this location, but I would point out that in 2012, the more cutting edge the starchitecture, the crappier it tends to be from an urbanist perspective. See: Walker Art Center, etc. Not that there's much they could have really done with that location, but the blank walls and random grass circles in the parking lot-sized sidewalk don't help much.Can we just start a game day type chant?
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We can't have an Indianapolis style stadium, the last thing we need is a giant block E over in DTE. We need something visually stunning that even non fans like so that the neighborhood can grow and it can be a pride point for the city. it would fill in a gap in our starchitecture and hopefully inspire new greatness on that blank slate.
You sound like my 12 year old. It's gonna suck! It can't be worse than what is there now.Pretty sure the stadium is going to suck from an urbanist perspective regardless. I do hope we don't build a giant barn.
ehh? I support the stadium in general. Feel feel to refute any statement I make but don't change the argument. And it's replacing the worst stadium in the country so I agree.You sound like my 12 year old. It's gonna suck! It can't be worse than what is there now.Pretty sure the stadium is going to suck from an urbanist perspective regardless. I do hope we don't build a giant barn.
I disagree. It depends completely on the site and what is going on. It's impossible to think that a stadium this size is going to contribute much to urbanism, because it's a relatively static fixture that covers a huge amount of space. It might as well be visually dynamic. Our most recent starchitecture is actually Pelli's (architect for wells fargo tower) Central Library which is VERY urban in its footprint, and visual appeal. The Guthrie also fills it's place well. Target field though not totally starchitect is stunning and contributes immensely to the urban feel of that area. The Weisman is also, and fits into the U and urban fabric well. Then there is MacPhail which fits in perfectly. The Walker site is challenging, and some of us really like the minimalist plaza with grass circles. (though more could be done with the original plaza on the corner, but that isn't the starchitect's doing).I'm not pro-Lucas Oil Stadium for this location, but I would point out that in 2012, the more cutting edge the starchitecture, the crappier it tends to be from an urbanist perspective. See: Walker Art Center, etc. Not that there's much they could have really done with that location, but the blank walls and random grass circles in the parking lot-sized sidewalk don't help much.Can we just start a game day type chant?
populous
Populous!
POPULOUS!
POPULOUS!!!
We can't have an Indianapolis style stadium, the last thing we need is a giant block E over in DTE. We need something visually stunning that even non fans like so that the neighborhood can grow and it can be a pride point for the city. it would fill in a gap in our starchitecture and hopefully inspire new greatness on that blank slate.
After 2 lousy seasons and another on the way, forgive us for not having confidence in anything the Vikings do.How about waiting and see what they come up with before criticizing the look.
I'm confident Vikings will maintain the number 1 ranking in all of the NFL for most arrests and jail time by players ... that's the only thing they are REALLY good at!After 2 lousy seasons and another on the way, forgive us for not having confidence in anything the Vikings do.How about waiting and see what they come up with before criticizing the look.