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Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 9:00 pm
by m b p
grant... you should upload it to the 3d warehouse... that way we can all view it in google earth. :)

I created a mock tower for that site recently as well. This is what, I imagine, 44 floors at 15 ft per floor and 600,000 sq ft could look like:

Download/view TCF Concept Model

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Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 9:35 pm
by Minneboy
The turning tower is good but I'd like to see a more elaborate top.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 10:09 pm
by m b p
^ we all have opinions. I love simple form. No top! ;)

I was also trying mimic the simplistic form of the foshay. The foshay is an obelisk... a simple column. I tried to make a modern simple column..... focusing on it being a column and not what a column would support (a crown).

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: July 31st, 2014, 10:18 pm
by grant1simons2
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model. ... 1f523101dc

Here's mine redone. m b p I don't know how to position it right in google earth

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 12:37 am
by kirby96
Design criticism's aside, I think these angles show it can be done without overshadowing the Foshay. This is a great spot for a tall building.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 10:15 am
by Unity77
grant... you should upload it to the 3d warehouse... that way we can all view it in google earth. :)

I created a mock tower for that site recently as well. This is what, I imagine, 44 floors at 15 ft per floor and 600,000 sq ft could look like:

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Yes!! Good work m b p.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 10:23 am
by John
m b p, Nice work. The 44 story tower looks just about right for the site. Not too tall to completely overwhelm the Foshay, yet tall enough to have an impact on the skyline. At 44 stories it would be slender and elegant, but still have efficient elevator service. Scale and proportion are fantastic. I actually think your concept model may be somewhat similar to what gets proposed here by the developer.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 10:49 am
by seanrichardryan
The first step to the planning commission is approval from John. :)

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 11:00 am
by Nathan
it's basically the turning torso, and I would have no problem with transplanting that from malmo to dtmpls.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 12:21 pm
by TroyGBiv
Jag kan tala Svenska.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 1:37 pm
by Nathan
Then I think you are not the only one on the forum, maybe they can send some swedish love to the spanish architect and we can add a little international flare to our skyline.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 2:01 pm
by John
^Perkins & Will are the architects for this project. They did a great job with Ackerberg's Mozaic phase 3, so I have optimism this will turn out well. My hope is they do something with flair but respects the Foshay. Our skyline could use some new blood.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 2:21 pm
by TroyGBiv
I am surprised that I haven't anything about developing the half block parking lot on the block with the Young Quinlan Building... seems like it would be a logical lot to develop... anyone hear anything? I know that this would need a new section for it...

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 2:43 pm
by twincitizen
That would seem the most prime spot in the core CBD that is currently just surface parking. I'm kind of surprised that sites (including the TCF site) with existing buildings are in play, but this particular one has not been. Whatever happens, I hope they keep that alley open through to Nicollet. That could be made into a really interesting space.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 2:49 pm
by Wedgeguy
I am surprised that I haven't anything about developing the half block parking lot on the block with the Young Quinlan Building... seems like it would be a logical lot to develop... anyone hear anything? I know that this would need a new section for it...
That half block is on the table. But I think Hines still owns that property and is waiting to see what Target does with their DT needs. While it would be a great place for residential. I think they are waiting to see what cards Target is holding with their future needs and expansion once they get their house in order again. I also think that Hines sees the Target field property as their next project. The Marquette half block only becomes more valuable as other projects develop around it. That half block could be split into two section with Office in the north half closer to the core and the south half residential which allows for more south facing units and more sun into units. Doing a bridge over the alley with second and maybe 3rd floor connection would make a great use of that half block. But the market will eventually say what they feel is the best use of this half block.

I hope that they do something like the spiral on the old TCF block. But they need to better integrate the old TCF tower, the Foshey, and and the new tower than that hapless interior court that is there now. Work to get the street and skyway levels to work together.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 9:03 pm
by David Greene
Whatever happens, I hope they keep that alley open through to Nicollet.
And the old Schmitt's mural.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 1st, 2014, 9:48 pm
by TroyGBiv
Wedgeguy - that makes a lot of sense - it does seem like it is a parcel lying low until the market value hits a high point.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 2nd, 2014, 9:14 am
by twinkess
They remodeled the elevator lobby on skyway level. Moved the entrance to Sew What! and the temporary construction walls came down yesterday to reveal this:

https://i.imgur.com/gPeUCoG.jpg

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: August 3rd, 2014, 5:52 am
by nickmgray
Nice. I'll have to walk through the building on Monday to take a look. I'm sure the plans for this little internal redevelopment have been in the works for quite some time. The interior of the building has always been quite depressing.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: November 10th, 2014, 3:32 pm
by HiawathaGuy
Interesting... 175,000 to 600,000 Sq Ft., quite the range!

TCF Bank Building owner looks at hotel/office redevelopment for site