Re: Gateway Tower (RBC/Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 503'
Posted: January 8th, 2019, 2:41 pm
I sure hope we avoid slippery-sloping our way to signage everywhere.
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It's weird that this site still has to carry its 'iconic' baggage. If this is a mediocre development, then... what is everything else that's been built in the last two decades? I mean, this will literally be the best high-rise building built in Minneapolis since at least 2007 (Carlyle), and I'd argue that it's better than that for a number of reasons. Next candidate up is 50 South Sixth (2001), and it's also better than that.In my view, there's no game of chicken. Losing this mediocre development over a sign dispute would be perfectly fine. I'm ok with leaving this block empty for a while in order to get something better.
Thank you! I couldn't agree more - this block needs to be developed, waiting "for something better" is crazy.It's weird that this site still has to carry its 'iconic' baggage. If this is a mediocre development, then... what is everything else that's been built in the last two decades? I mean, this will literally be the best high-rise building built in Minneapolis since at least 2007 (Carlyle), and I'd argue that it's better than that for a number of reasons. Next candidate up is 50 South Sixth (2001), and it's also better than that.
If you've got some secret intel that somebody is going to build another IDS Center here in the next couple of years, I'm willing to wait. Otherwise, this will be a very very nice building that will anchor the north end of the Mall and vastly improve the connection between downtown and the North Loop and the river.
I'm not willing to wait another ten years for that, in the hope that somehow somebody will build us a masterpiece.
Count me in too! I agree...I don't think the sign is that huge of an issue, especially if it is just a logo....relatively small as far as signage goes. If we had signs limited to logos that size, I don't think I would mind that much. Anyway, completely agree with this.Thank you! I couldn't agree more - this block needs to be developed, waiting "for something better" is crazy.It's weird that this site still has to carry its 'iconic' baggage. If this is a mediocre development, then... what is everything else that's been built in the last two decades? I mean, this will literally be the best high-rise building built in Minneapolis since at least 2007 (Carlyle), and I'd argue that it's better than that for a number of reasons. Next candidate up is 50 South Sixth (2001), and it's also better than that.
If you've got some secret intel that somebody is going to build another IDS Center here in the next couple of years, I'm willing to wait. Otherwise, this will be a very very nice building that will anchor the north end of the Mall and vastly improve the connection between downtown and the North Loop and the river.
I'm not willing to wait another ten years for that, in the hope that somehow somebody will build us a masterpiece.
It's weird that this site still has to carry its 'iconic' baggage. If this is a mediocre development, then... what is everything else that's been built in the last two decades? I mean, this will literally be the best high-rise building built in Minneapolis since at least 2007 (Carlyle), and I'd argue that it's better than that for a number of reasons. Next candidate up is 50 South Sixth (2001), and it's also better than that.In my view, there's no game of chicken. Losing this mediocre development over a sign dispute would be perfectly fine. I'm ok with leaving this block empty for a while in order to get something better.
If you've got some secret intel that somebody is going to build another IDS Center here in the next couple of years, I'm willing to wait. Otherwise, this will be a very very nice building that will anchor the north end of the Mall and vastly improve the connection between downtown and the North Loop and the river.
I'm not willing to wait another ten years for that, in the hope that somehow somebody will build us a masterpiece.
It's not that we're interested in waiting for something better as much as we don't need to be held hostage by a corporation to get something built. Our city has a long heritage of not having signage. They've been a part of that city all along they should be willing to accept that.Count me in too! I agree...I don't think the sign is that huge of an issue, especially if it is just a logo....relatively small as far as signage goes. If we had signs limited to logos that size, I don't think I would mind that much. Anyway, completely agree with this.Thank you! I couldn't agree more - this block needs to be developed, waiting "for something better" is crazy.It's weird that this site still has to carry its 'iconic' baggage. If this is a mediocre development, then... what is everything else that's been built in the last two decades? I mean, this will literally be the best high-rise building built in Minneapolis since at least 2007 (Carlyle), and I'd argue that it's better than that for a number of reasons. Next candidate up is 50 South Sixth (2001), and it's also better than that.
If you've got some secret intel that somebody is going to build another IDS Center here in the next couple of years, I'm willing to wait. Otherwise, this will be a very very nice building that will anchor the north end of the Mall and vastly improve the connection between downtown and the North Loop and the river.
I'm not willing to wait another ten years for that, in the hope that somehow somebody will build us a masterpiece.
The sign is pictured in a link down just a few posts back. It's not.Maybe just naive hope on my part, but it could be a cool sign that adds to the skyline. When I say this, I’m thinking specifically of the 1st National Bank sign in St Paul. It’s tough for me to think of St Paul without it.
On a silly note, maybe they could put the weather ball on the sign!!!! Lol
Yeah, I have no opinion on the overall merits of this project one way or the other, but the inconsistent attitude we have towards signs around here is strange. Everything vintage and interesting was considered tacky and ugly at one point.It's a little weird that the Gold Medal Flour and Grain Belt beer signs are beloved all around, and at least in the case of the Gold Medal Flour sign must have received public money to still be there, but no, we can't have any more.
I read this and then peaked out my office window and read "Foshay" on the top of what was the most prominent building in the Minneapolis skyline from 1929 until 1972 (and then second most for years after that).It's a design choice that Minneapolis has made.