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Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 4:22 pm
by MNdible
Not sure how I feel about the faux-historic, although this one at least appears to be better executed than the dog that Swervo proposed over on N. 5th Avenue.

But it's a really interesting site plan. Does a lot of cool things, even if it would seem to suck up the last great spot for a North Loop central park.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 6:11 pm
by David Greene
Something better has to be done with that parking ramp. Love the building.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 6:20 pm
by grant1simons2
Well it's wrapped in residential units and has a large retail space at the bottom.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 6:54 pm
by EOst
I'm glad that the ramp has retail/amenities at the base, but does it really have blank cement walls on two sides?

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 7:00 pm
by matthew5080
The retail and residential is a nice addition, but that doesn't make up for the blank, cement walls. Very cold and uninviting to me. The building itself looks nice though!

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 7:21 pm
by Nathan
I'm glad that the ramp has retail/amenities at the base, but does it really have blank cement walls on two sides?
I think the assumption is that at least one side will be covered by a future development. The other side will hardly be visible.


I rather like the ornamentation on the ramp and the residential units going up the far side.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 15th, 2016, 7:24 pm
by Nathan
Also saw that the plans show "future 140 foot building" to the north west between this and bunkers, so they know a few details about the future (greco was it? )development next door.

Also this leaves the Basset Creek corridor open and a potential connection through the blocks with said development.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 8:35 am
by acs
I may be missing something, but where are the windows for the residential units on the parking ramp? All the sides look the same to me.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 8:44 am
by grant1simons2
Check out the bottom right image in the perspective renderings of the ramp.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 8:51 am
by amiller92
Why isn't the ramp structure taller with more residential units?

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 8:56 am
by DanB
They are kind of hard to see but there are multi-pane windows on the 3rd street side of the ramp as well as the the first bay on the 8th ave side.

I really like the office building but am a bit confused by the parking ramp. The renderings so it as all grey but the earlier drawings seem to say the first 2 levels will use brick panels so are the bricks grey like the concrete or are the renderings off?

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 1:07 pm
by Nathan
I'd imagine the residential isn't taller or more because they're planning with the adjacent lot and that would block views of the future residential units next door?

Another thing that is great about this are the 4 retail bays. This could really bring in the more reasonable fast casual type places. Chipotle etc etc. Lots of office workers for lunch and tons of residential around. That little green space could really be bumping with a good mix of food and shops.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 1:10 pm
by acs
I'm curious why United is even moving forward with this when there is an almost completely finished T3 sitting empty just down the street.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 1:12 pm
by Nathan
Didn't the last round of metrics for office space show that northloop was the tightest market for class a office in the metro? I'm sure they're not worried with that kind of news.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 1:16 pm
by mister.shoes
Maybe T3 is only empty because it's not yet finished ;)

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 1:18 pm
by acs
Sure, the vacancy rate is low. Yet that was with no new construction, we've only had conversions so far and most were of far smaller square footage than what this would build. T3 is the first spec office building to be built in the area from scratch, and the result isn't exactly encouraging. 250k square footage added to the market with no announced office tenants as of yet.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 1:20 pm
by Nathan
2 other developers have also proposed spec office buildings for the area, if they're all bullish I don't think we need to worry about them.

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 3:26 pm
by EOst
Well, we'll see, right?

Re: 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 16th, 2016, 3:31 pm
by grant1simons2
We don't even know if there's a slow lease up. Sometimes out reporters miss a lot.

Re: United North Loop Office Building - 729 Washington Av N

Posted: September 24th, 2016, 7:41 pm
by seanrichardryan
I do not like the 2-6 floor parking ramp connection. The RR ROW alleyway is visually important here.