Page 4 of 20
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 4:37 pm
by HiawathaGuy
This would be the perfect spot for a multi-step building. I'll take the infill and do think it has some visual interest.
But from Marquette, it sort of looks like a narrow hotel.
I'd prefer to see a stepped tower with a 6, 12 & 24 story element. But alas, there must be a reason developers don't do this. But I'd much prefer to see a portion jut up taller at at the corner of 10th & Marquette.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 4:37 pm
by mnmike
Yeah, I don't think I care for this, along with destroying one of the few buildings of note in the area...it takes away all but one retail space on the ground level...making a dead street wall out of one of the few places in downtown that is not!
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 4:37 pm
by seanrichardryan
I'd say I've seen this design before.
via Bapster:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/104362033 ... 422350005/
how moderne.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 4:42 pm
by TroyGBiv
I've always wished that the Handicraft Guild become an Arts and Crafts Museum... Most people don't know anything about it's incredible history. It would have been really exciting to have this tower reflect architecture from that period. Just my fantasy...
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 4:47 pm
by TroyGBiv
I hearby declare that fantasy is back!
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 4:55 pm
by Anondson
Do not like this look.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 5:01 pm
by mog
Yeah, I don't think I care for this, along with destroying one of the few buildings of note in the area...it takes away all but one retail space on the ground level...making a dead street wall out of one of the few places in downtown that is not!
I agree! I can't believe they are going to destroy such a cool old building! There are so many other places this could be built.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 5:05 pm
by David Greene
That white is going to be grey in about three months.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 5:39 pm
by grant1simons2
Doubt it but after looking at this building more, the more I hate it, even if those aren't the final colors. So they want townhomes lining Marq? That's umm odd. They're actually taking a step back if they approve these plans. We have street retail space in a historic building, one of the spaces is a shirt print store which is really really cool. Also there's that womans clothing store. Seriously, shame on this developer for choosing right here to build. This would fit in mill district but not downtown west. The core.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 5:45 pm
by seanrichardryan
That white is going to be grey in about three months.
Read the thread people........these are not going to be the final colors. Look at the City docs.
From the city docs-
In keeping with the spirit of the guild industry, the building takes on a modern artisan approach to the qualities of a crafted design and structure, continuing the legacy of the original Guild building built
decades ago. The project represents a seamless integration between structure, function, materials and
aesthetics to create an architecture grounded in the craft of making and current technologies. The
structure consists of a steel post/girder, and precast concrete slab framework with an efficient and
repetitive grid. The exterior evolves from this regular grid system to incorporate large floor to ceiling
window units that alternate with a solid energy efficient insulated wall panel. The wall panels subtly
alternate between white and grey to echo a timeless checkered mosaic pattern commonly utilized by
most progressive societies, ancient and modern, whether in small crafted tiles, pottery or architecture.
Windows and projected balconies provide a detailed play of these alternating colors for increased
animation.
Some good old fashion salesman bullshitting right there.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 5:56 pm
by EOst
I'm going to be one of the NIMBYs speaking against this.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 5:57 pm
by seanrichardryan
I do remember the owners of this building protesting the designation in 98'. Are they the same?
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 5:57 pm
by Nathan
That is amazing. That is how you use detail and graphic shape to take a simple (boring) shape and concept to create interest and make it look dynamic.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 6:01 pm
by grant1simons2
Writing to staff on this one. Drastic mind change after looking into the files of this. This building is protected by the Minneapolis Historical Preservation, and was designed by William Channing Whitney. You may know him from beautiful homes built near the walker and the Minneapolis club and a few more amazing buildings.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 6:07 pm
by Nathan
I mean yes it's modern, and that building could have been great. Ie the hotel modern in Boise... but this project has such different detail and glass and amenities, plus a great juxtaposition between past and present.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 6:08 pm
by Minneboy
That white is going to be grey in about three months.
Read the thread people........these are not going to be the final colors. Look at the City docs.
From the city docs-
In keeping with the spirit of the guild industry, the building takes on a modern artisan approach to the qualities of a crafted design and structure, continuing the legacy of the original Guild building built
decades ago. The project represents a seamless integration between structure, function, materials and
aesthetics to create an architecture grounded in the craft of making and current technologies. The
structure consists of a steel post/girder, and precast concrete slab framework with an efficient and
repetitive grid. The exterior evolves from this regular grid system to incorporate large floor to ceiling
window units that alternate with a solid energy efficient insulated wall panel. The wall panels subtly
alternate between white and grey to echo a timeless checkered mosaic pattern commonly utilized by
most progressive societies, ancient and modern, whether in small crafted tiles, pottery or architecture.
Windows and projected balconies provide a detailed play of these alternating colors for increased
animation.
Some good old fashion salesman bullshitting right there.
Perhaps they can paint some chess pieces on it or actual chess pieces in large form, to go with the nearby music sheet building. You know show how smart we are.
Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 6:12 pm
by Minneboy
New 18-story, 293-unit residential bldg proposed for 10th & Marquette next to Handicraft Guild Bldg
LOVE IT!
I was thinking this was the Schmidt music lot but then I looked up the handicraft guild building and its the block southwest of that. So relieved the music note lot is being preserved for a future office tower. Looks like they would have to demo the buildings facing Marquette but the ground level appears to be consciously trying to re-create that facade even if what's above is completely modern. And it looks like they didn't touch the actual handicraft building. Still will probably end up in a historical preservation fight
.
It would look a lot better if each of those grey squares (or what ever color it might become, jutted out at a 45 degree angel Give it some twist to it then just color.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 6:39 pm
by grant1simons2
219 ft wide. So it's wider than it is tall. The 1016 Marq site alone is 47.3' alone and 110' deep. The current design calls for a depth of 219' and a width of around 63'. Could they possibly flip it over and build something taller but just not destroying a historic building and just destroy a 1 story vacant crap shack.
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 6:42 pm
by bapster2006
Re: 10th & Marquette Development
Posted: February 19th, 2015, 6:45 pm
by Andrew_F
This building is protected by the Minneapolis Historical Preservation
For anyone seeking clarification as to why the city's website and the current CoW staff report do not refer to 1004 Marquette (one of the buildings proposed to be demolished) as historic, but older documents refer to it as part of the Handicraft Building, this may help:
http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups ... 090030.pdf