urbanMSP

I am not happy we built a pedestrian bridge for 10 freaking million dollars. It's completely ridiculous.

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How long will the funding of the stadium be discussed? Everyone loved to talk about the funding of Target Field before US Bank but now no one talks about it. Last I heard, Target Field was going to be paid off years early and under budget due to reduced interest. It was worthy of discussion before it was passed but it just seems like it won't die. It was passed May 2012 and 2017 is only a few months away. I'm not a huge fan of how it was funded but there have been some obvious benefits to the city and nothing will change now. It's just getting annoying how every time the Vikings are discussed or the stadium, there are bunch of comments about it. But I digress.

I was at the game and have now attended the first 3 games and have had a chance to to see the game from most parts of the stadium including the nosebleeds, the lower bowl, and from a suite. It's a cliche but it really is a "world class" football stadium in my opinion, which should be expected I suppose. I'm not going to say the stadium is perfect but it's a solid 9 out of 10. The exterior of the stadium is probably a 7 or an 8. As others have said, I'd like to see a more permanent entry for events. Although the nice part is that when events aren't happening, the plaza is totally open. The ped bridge and Commons were good ideas and I'm happy they happened.

I'm sure just like with Target Field, some minor changes/ upgrades will be made here and there. As I mentioned above, in several years when people do (mostly) forget about the funding, I see it as an asset to the city and state.

those that who need to moralize on issues that are simply business decisions.

I am not happy we built a pedestrian bridge for 10 freaking million dollars. It's completely ridiculous.

The Vikings are paying for most of the bridge and secured the naming and advertising rights to pay it down. As the bridge is publicly owned, and is used to secure actual pedestrian access to other public spaces where, as can now be plainly seen when events occur, there is an actual public purpose.

I would like to take a small wager for anyone interested. (No money, goods or services). Club Purple is now Mystic Lake Club Purple. A gaming casino now has a non-gambling presence in the stadium where fans are allowed to do fantasy football - an activity some states are seeking to declare an form of gambling. Before Minneapolis has to begin paying down the debt in 2019, who wants to bet that there will be a substantive effort to allow Mystic Lake to engage in some form of gambling during periods when no sporting activity is involved in the stadium that would involve some form of revenue sharing with the city (or maybe even the states)?

The point is, as you note, its there money whether realized or a future interest.

The point is, as you note, its there money whether realized or a future interest.

So, the money earned from selling the naming rights that were explicitly given over to the Wilfs by the State and City is the Wilfs' money, whereas the half of the stadium which was actually paid for by the State and the City is not the Wilfs' money.

You'll excuse me if I don't bite on this line of reasoning, right?

I would like to take a small wager for anyone interested. (No money, goods or services). Club Purple is now Mystic Lake Club Purple. A gaming casino now has a non-gambling presence in the stadium where fans are allowed to do fantasy football - an activity some states are seeking to declare an form of gambling. Before Minneapolis has to begin paying down the debt in 2019, who wants to bet that there will be a substantive effort to allow Mystic Lake to engage in some form of gambling during periods when no sporting activity is involved in the stadium that would involve some form of revenue sharing with the city (or maybe even the states)?

An effort? Sure, that's a fairly safe bet. "Substantive" is subjective.

Will it happen in three years? No way. Even if the Shakopee Mdewakanton wanted to do it, there would be gigantic pushback from the other tribes.

10.
Freaking.
Million.
Dollars.

For a bridge.

That doesn't have to carry vehicles.

So, the money earned from selling the naming rights that were explicitly given over to the Wilfs by the State and City is the Wilfs' money

In the legal sense of the term, "substantive" means serious and weighted.

In the legal sense of the term, "substantive" means serious and weighted.

As this is two posts in a row in which you've purported to use legal terms: no it does not. In the legal sense of the term, "substantive" means relating to the substance of the law (i.e., rights, responsibilities and privileges) in contrast to the rules of procedure.