North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby uptownbro » August 3rd, 2021, 8:00 am

At min St Olaf's tower will be 20 story's at min but given the demand and location 27 would be great. Hines has also floated an office idea of the music wall lot they own in the CBD. 17 N Washington is under construction as well as fire station one.
One factor I think thats at play is the on going rebuilds of place burned down in the riots has impacted the construction labor and material market demand.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby MNdible » August 3rd, 2021, 8:39 am

I think that even pre-Covid, there were lots of indications that the downtown MF pipeline was providing more product than the market needed, at least at the price-points that their pro formas said they needed to get. So it shouldn't be terribly surprising that the pace needed to slowdown somewhat.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby amiller92 » August 3rd, 2021, 9:33 am

One factor I think thats at play is the on going rebuilds of place burned down in the riots has impacted the construction labor and material market demand.
Is there a lot of rebuilding going on? On the south side, it's just the under-construction apartments, Wendy's, AutoZone, Arby's/Raising Cane's and the USBank at Lake and 10th, I think. Would love to see more.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby uptownbro » August 3rd, 2021, 9:45 am

Over the past year for buildings that have been finished its been 2 speed way gas stations,I think a holiday station near the falls, hi lake shopping, the shopping center by the kmart. Not counting the major remodels of target, 2 cub foods and a number of other buildings that were burned but not destroyed that have re opened.
As for under construction: Karmel addition(given that the wall greens was burned down and they added floors to this proposal), 112 east lake st,815 ceder ave, maxlt pawn, the turf club in st paul, the shell station off east lake and park on top of the ones you listed. Thats just off the top of my head. I think the post office as well. They claim the new building off lake st will reopen in the spring of 2022 per fox9.
Maybe not a crazy amount be still a decent number of places that are adding to the demand for labor

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby Gman12 » August 3rd, 2021, 11:55 am

This conversation might be better off in a different thread at this point.

The John Buck Company won the RFQ for the public service block, but there's been no subsequent news about that. They have an extensive portfolio of residential and office towers.
I didn't recall anyone even submitting anything after the first RFP that garnered the one response that didn't meet the requirements, but I am pleasantly surprised that seems to not be the case. Probably no imminent news, still early on in the exclusive rights agreement timeline, but they seem to be motivated to come up with a plan for the block.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby BoredAgain » September 29th, 2021, 10:48 am

In November, the parking lot that currently occupies this space will be closing so that they can break ground. No word on the construction schedule, but loose rumor indicates that they are breaking ground now to meet the construction start schedule and avoid going back for new city approvals.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby uptownbro » September 29th, 2021, 10:50 am

Great news to hear they are moving forward with this

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby RedDutch » September 29th, 2021, 12:14 pm

I hope this is true....can't wait to see this one!

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby Silophant » November 1st, 2021, 6:54 pm

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Holy cow it actually broke ground, or at least broke asphalt
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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby uptownbro » November 1st, 2021, 7:20 pm

Great new to see this actually happening. Long term I wonder what this will mean for the viaduct. Hopefully it will drive demand for the land under it and put pressure on the city to consider its long term future

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby martykoessel » November 1st, 2021, 8:15 pm

Re: the viaduct

Given the existence of the railroad tracks, it's hard to imagine the viaduct being demolished east of N. 5th Ave. However, when someday deterioration reaches the point when there's a choice to be made about how much to invest in reconstructing major sections of the viaduct, thought might be given to dropping it to ground level and converting it to a boulevard from west of N. 5th Ave. to in front of the current Salvation Army complex, with intersections at N. 6th Ave. and N. 8th Ave. And since that would entail extending N. 8th Ave. a block southward from N. 3rd St., why not keep going and extend it through to N. 5th St.? Seriously, this would be a major project, and it would be astounding to see government agencies give it any sort of consideration so long as the viaducts continue in good condition.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby Trademark » November 2nd, 2021, 7:19 am

Re: the viaduct

Given the existence of the railroad tracks, it's hard to imagine the viaduct being demolished east of N. 5th Ave. However, when someday deterioration reaches the point when there's a choice to be made about how much to invest in reconstructing major sections of the viaduct, thought might be given to dropping it to ground level and converting it to a boulevard from west of N. 5th Ave. to in front of the current Salvation Army complex, with intersections at N. 6th Ave. and N. 8th Ave. And since that would entail extending N. 8th Ave. a block southward from N. 3rd St., why not keep going and extend it through to N. 5th St.? Seriously, this would be a major project, and it would be astounding to see government agencies give it any sort of consideration so long as the viaducts continue in good condition.
Considering there is a whole construction project with those ramps happening right now. The viaduct ain't going anywhere.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby SurlyLHT » November 2nd, 2021, 7:51 am

Maybe someday the southbound section can be turned into an elevated park or parkway terminating at Hall Park in North Mpls. That then connects to 16th which will be a bike blvd and goes to Theo Wirth.. There is already the embankment for a bridge there. Maybe we could put the Farmers Market up there too? This thing will be there for awhile and we need to find alternative uses for it.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby uptownbro » November 2nd, 2021, 9:41 am

Sadly you are all correct that until it reaches a point of major repair the viaduct will remain. I am glad this project will provide some green space for the part of the city has is really lacking even with the new park. If the most recent plans are to be believed it will include a dog park among other space under the viaduct. Maybe even getting it down to one of the bridges for car traffic and repurposing the other one

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby HiawathaGuy » November 4th, 2021, 2:14 pm

Hines breaks ground on tall apartment, office building in Minneapolis' North Loop
https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... egins.html

Houston-based developer Hines announced Thursday that it broke ground on the project, called North Loop Green, this week and expects to wrap up construction in time for a spring 2024 opening.

North Loop Green will feature a 36-story apartment tower with 350 market-rate residential units and 100 short-term rental units and a 14-story tower with 350,000 square feet of office space.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby mullen » November 5th, 2021, 7:14 am

excited for this development. it looks amazing in the renders.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby mamundsen » November 5th, 2021, 7:26 am

Have we seen a render of how it will look from inside Target Field?

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby thespeedmccool » November 5th, 2021, 9:40 am

Have we seen a render of how it will look from inside Target Field?
I bet there's one floating around out there, considering the Twins opposed NLG because it would create glare.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby John21 » November 5th, 2021, 9:44 am

I think someone on Skyscrapercity made one. It was pretty imposing and probably why the Twins briefly tried to make a stink about it.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby John21 » November 5th, 2021, 9:49 am

I think someone on Skyscrapercity made one. It was pretty imposing and probably why the Twins briefly tried to make a stink about it.
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/ ... -168750456


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