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Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 4:14 pm
by Minneboy
Sure okay. I can see all the people rushing over there to park in a parking ramp to go buy groceries. Oh wait...Cub..no parking ramp.

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 4:40 pm
by Tcmetro
I don't think parking in a ramp to buy groceries is a big deal. They'll have escalators and large elevators between the parking and the store.

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 7:36 pm
by Silophant
Right, no one goes to grocery stores with parking garages, which is why the Old St Anthony Lunds and downtown Whole Foods have been such abject failures.

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: May 13th, 2021, 7:55 pm
by Tcmetro
Also, Cub planned to build a new store with a parking ramp in Uptown a few years ago. I believe the idea was scrapped because they would lose market share while the store was closed and would have a tough time getting it back from the area competitors.

If Lunds goes in at Seven Points then they can close the existing store once the new one is built.

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: May 14th, 2021, 8:03 am
by EOst
Right, no one goes to grocery stores with parking garages, which is why the Old St Anthony Lunds and downtown Whole Foods have been such abject failures.
Don't forget the Selby/Snelling Whole Foods, which definitely doesn't have a line out the door every day.

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: May 14th, 2021, 8:18 am
by twincitizen
Also, Cub planned to build a new store with a parking ramp in Uptown a few years ago. I believe the idea was scrapped because they would lose market share while the store was closed and would have a tough time getting it back from the area competitors.

If Lunds goes in at Seven Points then they can close the existing store once the new one is built.
That's exactly their strategy in Highland Park as well. They're getting a newer, larger store without having the close the current one for 18+months of construction. In that case, they're moving from a leased location to a leased location, but in Uptown they'd also be setting themselves up to sell their very valuable real estate to a developer. I wouldn't be shocked to hear that Lunds already has a deal with Ryan or Doran to redevelop their current site.

Sidebar: I was not aware that Kitchen Window isn't a chain. I assumed this was a national chain, not a single location unique business. I guess I was assuming they'd pack it up and move to 50th & France or Galleria or something, but maybe they're just calling a career if their lease is expiring. CB2, I assume, will resurface elsewhere in the metro, likely at Galleria or in North Loop.

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: May 14th, 2021, 8:38 am
by Anondson
The Fresh Thyme’s location at Excelsior and Grand has their main parking under the apartments above the grocery. The whole block, though has a nice amount of on-street parking as well.

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: May 14th, 2021, 9:14 am
by MNdible
All of the examples above of grocery stores with structured parking are correct, of course, but they were all dedicated, purpose built on only one or two levels with typically flat-plate parking decks and well designed vertical circulation. The existing Seven Points parking ramp is a completely different animal. (Which isn't to say that a new grocery store couldn't construct a new below grade parking deck.)

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: May 21st, 2021, 1:54 pm
by Tyler
Yeah no way the existing ramp is sufficient IMO.

This is potentially a pretty great concept though. The pedestrian path area could be a game changer if done well.

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: June 8th, 2021, 1:09 pm
by uptownbro
Looks like the chase bank branch is close to opening. I also got a look at the new Hennepin and lake entrance

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: December 1st, 2021, 8:47 am
by uptownbro
The founders of Can can wonderland will be opening a Mini-Golf, Sculpture Garden in the old fig and farro space. It will include "arts performance area, a rooftop sculpture garden, and artist-designed mini-golf"
https://tcbmag.com/mini-golf-sculpture- ... in-uptown/

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: December 2nd, 2021, 10:18 am
by RedDutch
Well at least they are thinking outside of the box. I have been to Can Can Wonderland once and it was pretty fun. I'd love to know the timeline on the two apartment buildings that have been proposed.

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: December 3rd, 2021, 6:59 am
by kiliff75
This is great. Reconfiguring all this shopping into entertainment could be a great path forward, especially if there's some centerpiece places like this.

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: December 3rd, 2021, 7:43 am
by Xcskier56
Wow, so forward thinking of Chase bank to include mini golf in a branch!

All jokes aside, as of yesterday, a large portion (maybe all, I didn’t notice) of the fig and farrow space was occupied by a brand new Chase Bank branch, so I kinda doubt they’ll be moving out. Maybe this will go into where Libertine used to be?

Edit: reading the article more closely, they say it’ll have a rooftop sculpture garden. 100% going into the old Libertine space

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: December 5th, 2021, 3:16 pm
by NickP
This is great! I love cancan wonderland. I hits a lot of my hipster tendencies lol :-)

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: February 10th, 2022, 2:15 pm
by rhettcarlson
"On the horizon is an announcement from Northpond about dramatic changes to Seven Points. “We want to add density, multifamily residential, we want to make it interactive to the streets,” says Ankin."

Positive quote from Northpond about their housing plans here. I hope we see an announcement and plans soon. Once the Old Chicago site wraps up Uptown won't have any cranes in the sky for the first time in probably a decade.

https://tcbmag.com/uptown-looks-up-from-the-bottom/

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: February 15th, 2022, 12:05 pm
by twincitizen
I bet it'll look something like this, from May 2021:
I'm guessing these are the images Austinite is referring to: https://www.instagram.com/sevenpointsuptown/ (one has a "grocery" sign on the mixed use building)
Or these from North Pond's website: https://northpond.com/portfolio/sevenpoints/ (where I pulled the image below)

A new home for Lunds is a good guess. While they tend to own most of their older properties, they've also become tenants in new mixed-use developments: Nokomis/Cedar and Highland Bridge. If it is indeed a Lunds at the base of the mixed-use development that would replace the entire southern half of the Seven Points complex, I suspect they would operate the current store until it opens, and then sell off their property for development. Lunds is sitting on 1.75 acres in the heart of Uptown, which could fetch them $6-10MM depending on future market conditions.

Image

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: February 17th, 2022, 6:46 pm
by Silophant
And, here's the CoW packet.

The plan is now to demo the Kitchen Window, CB2, and Famous Dave's spaces, along with the existing entry, and build a seven-story building in their place with 264 apartments on levels 3-7, 116 stalls of resident parking on level 2, a 45ksf grocery store and 4ksf restaurant space on the ground level, and 115 grocery store parking stalls in the basement. Unlike the previous image above, the opening of the U shape faces Hennepin, and there will be an enclosed atrium connecting the new building to the existing mall instead of an open promenade. So I guess the biggest question is, which grocery store is moving in? Presumably Lunds, this is basically the same design as the new one on Cedar, but I guess it could be Cub?

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: February 17th, 2022, 7:17 pm
by Nathan
Lunds would be the biggest win! I always imagine Holmes being able to run up to the mall, getting rid of that super block and having basically two whole new walkable uptown blocks!

Re: Seven Points Uptown (Calhoun Square)

Posted: February 17th, 2022, 7:24 pm
by alexschief
Uptown is dead.