East 38th Street & 38th St Station Development

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby RailBaronYarr » March 22nd, 2016, 9:07 am

I also put this in the Blue Line thread, but.. http://www.startribune.com/bike-storage ... 373050521/

Re: this thread, it would have been nice to see some renderings for this. I wonder if it's planned as part of the redevelopment discussed above or a totally separate thing?

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby John21 » March 22nd, 2016, 4:55 pm

Awesome! Some great stuff happening in our hood.

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby twincitizen » March 23rd, 2016, 7:39 am

What's up with the 6 houses south of Station 38 (across the alley from The Cardinal)? Strange that hasn't developed...surely there was planned to be a second phase of Station 38 there, no?

Also, that condo building on the SE corner of 28th Ave/38th St, while lacking architecturally, is a pretty model development dimensionally. It sits on two 40-foot lots, has decent retail frontage, underground parking, etc. Anyone have anything to share about that particular building and how it came to be during the previous condo boom?

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby mattaudio » March 23rd, 2016, 3:54 pm

I had a colleague who lived in that building and couldn't sell. And the coffee shop was vacant for a few years between the original (Tillie's) and Keen Eye. But yes, overall it's a great urban infill project that seems to do alright.

Though the Lander proposal across the street will blow it away when it comes to street presence if it gets built. 2/3 of the 28th St frontage for Station 38 is blank wall.

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby John21 » March 23rd, 2016, 4:32 pm

What's up with the 6 houses south of Station 38 (across the alley from The Cardinal)? Strange that hasn't developed...surely there was planned to be a second phase of Station 38 there, no?
I vaguely remember something drawn up for that spot along with the Cardinal and bus dropoff? I think it had buses coming out on 29th Ave? I probably just made that all up.

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby Realstreets » March 30th, 2016, 8:02 am

Can we get this moved into its own thread??

That is correct. The concept drawings had a building north and Cardinal Bar. Buses would enter from E 38th and exit onto 29th Ave inbetween Station 38 and the next building. I really don't like this idea. A bus terminal should not exit onto a residential streets. Previously there was a plan for a Station 38 phase 2 where those 6 houses are. If they want to create density at the station, I would make the existing bus turnaround tighter which would free up space behind the Cardinal.

Back to 3828, one thing that caught my attention was the inclusion of a roof top deck. If I was neighbor that would be an issue, but nobody seemed to care. Parking, parking, PARKING!!! was all anyone could think about. With all that said, I have high hopes for this and what it will add to 38th St.

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby mattaudio » April 7th, 2016, 2:19 pm

3828 will be discussed at SENA's Business, Development & Transportation Committee meeting
Thursday, April 7, 6:30pm
SENA office (1830 E 42nd St)

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby mattaudio » April 14th, 2016, 12:01 pm

Lander Group/Forteva will be formally submitting a development application for
the 3828 project to the City of Minneapolis on April 15. They have received
signatures from two-thirds of property owners within the area around the site
to meet the City's requirement to authorize the zoning change.

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby RailBaronYarr » April 14th, 2016, 12:43 pm

Plans as submitted for the Planning Commission meeting today. http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups ... 177672.pdf

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby MNdible » April 14th, 2016, 3:01 pm

Overall, looks like a great project.

My only beef is that stair tower encroachment -- seems like they could have avoided that. The person with the house next door was already going to be taking the brunt of this project, and that encroachment is just salt in the wound.

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby Nathan » April 14th, 2016, 3:57 pm

I like the blend of traditional and modern siding materials, it's a great use of space, seems to really create a neighborhood out of the intersection, build it!

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby Ohiosotan » April 15th, 2016, 7:39 am

Blue Ox Coffee on Chicago is closing and hopefully finds a new location nearby. Their facebook page has a farewell throwdown on the 21st of this month. Not sure what's moving in that space.

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby Realstreets » April 19th, 2016, 7:36 am

Blackend Tattoo will be opening soon at 3742 23rd Ave S, Minneapolis, MN 55407. Currently about half of the former Social Dance studio is under renovation. https://www.facebook.com/blackendtattoompls/?fref=photo

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2707 E. 38th Street

Postby Realstreets » April 19th, 2016, 7:40 am

The Lander Group/Forteva project includes a 4-story mixed use building with 53 dwelling units. The proposed building will be
L-shaped with frontage on 38th Street and 28th Avenue S.

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups ... 177672.pdf

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Re: 3828 - Lander project @ 38th Street & 28th Ave

Postby John21 » April 19th, 2016, 5:42 pm

I'm interested to see how the retail spaces fill on this one. It's disappointing that the commercial building at Longfellow Station hasn't happened.

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Re: East 38th Street Corridor & Standish-Ericsson

Postby mattaudio » May 4th, 2016, 11:47 am

A few months ago, I wrote about 3748 Park Ave South, an important corner on the growing 38th Street corridor.
"Sensible Infill Development Blocked by Zoning in Minneapolis"
https://streets.mn/2015/11/18/sensible-i ... nneapolis/

There's a plan for a duplex to be built on this vacant lot before the CPC on February 8:
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/meeting ... MSP-173156

While it's encouraging that the property owner is building a duplex despite requiring variances, it's disappointing that this corner is not getting something more dense.
This duplex must have fallen through? The parcel is back on the MLS, listed at $49,900.

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby twincitizen » May 4th, 2016, 12:54 pm

There's almost no way it pencils out at currently attainable rent levels in the area, right? What do you estimate the construction costs would be on that duplex & detached garage? Gotta be at least $350-400k, right? Not including land costs, I don't think you can even build the most basic SFH for under $200k today.

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby mattaudio » May 4th, 2016, 1:08 pm

Which is precisely why this parcel would be PRIME for a fourplex! Twincitizen, maybe you should build a fourplex here and occupy it as your residence!

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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby aeisenberg » May 4th, 2016, 6:21 pm

Which is precisely why this parcel would be PRIME for a fourplex! Twincitizen, maybe you should build a fourplex here and occupy it as your residence!
Mattaudio, you should team up with Twincitizen and go halfsies on it.
Aaron Eisenberg / Realtor, Keller Williams Integrity
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Re: 38th Street Corridor & Surrounding Neighborhoods

Postby mattaudio » May 4th, 2016, 8:56 pm

I'm game for that. I could buy the land.


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