Re: Mozaic
Posted: July 13th, 2012, 5:10 pm
I was in downtown St. Paul today and realized that the parking garage at Wabasha and 7th has colorful mesh panels, like another user recommended for Mozaic. It really is a great solution.
Architecture, Development, and Infrastructure of the Twin Cities
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A great solution with some added light display to give it some night time exuberance. You would think in Uptown (of all places) the neighborhood would be up in arms about the dismal parking ramp. Ackerberg can do much better than this. There needs to be more design scrutiny of their phase 2 of this project, and they should add some decorative element to the existing parking ramp. Uptown is Minneapolis' most vibrant neighborhood (in a very vibrant city) and there is no excuse for not designing high caliber and quality buildings here.I was in downtown St. Paul today and realized that the parking garage at Wabasha and 7th has colorful mesh panels, like another user recommended for Mozaic. It really is a great solution.
I bet you that's why that side is so ugly! Why make it beautiful if it's just going to be blocked in the near future? I feel like they (developers) do that quite often when they think/know that a building will go up right next door. Hotel Ivy has a completely blank wall on the side facing the surface parking lot -- presumably for a future hotel/apartment building?Ouch. They fully intend on building another structure to the East which will block the ugliest side. The rest is well screened by neighboring buildings.
Wasn't that building ALSO 10 floors? Couldn't be more than 12 -- I feel like I'd remember if it were. Just goes to show you that the neighborhood doesn't always know what's best -- no offense!yea let's ban the developer because the building isn't a architectural masterpiece. it's a wonderful building for it's office users that is adding a lot to uptown. the developer has done a ton for uptown and north minneapolis. doing projects when it wasn't fashionable. doing projects in risky financial times. mozaic required federal money to come to fruition.
it's very difficult to build anything on this scale in uptown with the neighborhood opposition. (remember the first mozaic designs from a few years ago?) that was a cool building but was deemed too tall.
he's a local developer with a good track record of doing quality projects.
Yes, they received federal stimulis money to subsidize the project, so it may not be as "risky" as you think for the developer. I doubt they have to pay it back! Look, I am being very polite when I say this is not an attractive building. They will need to do better with phase two.yea let's ban the developer because the building isn't a architectural masterpiece. it's a wonderful building for it's office users that is adding a lot to uptown. the developer has done a ton for uptown and north minneapolis. doing projects when it wasn't fashionable. doing projects in risky financial times. mozaic required federal money to come to fruition.
it's very difficult to build anything on this scale in uptown with the neighborhood opposition. (remember the first mozaic designs from a few years ago?) that was a cool building but was deemed too tall.
he's a local developer with a good track record of doing quality projects.
Half those parking garages look like crap too. You cannot mask a parking garage. Mosaic is better than most of those for the very reason that it is not actually on a major street. It is fronted by 4 story buildings which hide the majority of the ramp, and phase 2 will cover up the portion that is mostly exposed. I love this building for the fact it adds much needed parking and is trying to bring in good commercial office space. Something that is highly needed in Uptown to bring daytime traffic to the area. And the office portion of the building looks just fine. This building is set back 100 feet from any street and is behind other buildings. Doesn't need to be the grandest of all buildings. I think it just what that crappy little vacant parking lot needed.This thing is hideous. No further discussion on that point required. If I were the city I would force him to make it look better though. There has to be some kind of facade he can add to it to make it look better. To have the largest structure in Uptown be a hideous parking garage. It really ruins the character of the area.
Here is a list of beautiful parking garages. It is possible to make a parking ramp look nice. Either the developer was too cheap to do so or just doesn't have good architects. Either way it makes me wonder if its even worth letting the company develop in the city.
http://www.flavorwire.com/118378/the-wo ... -garages#5
I agree with you. When "City Walk" on the Cowboy Slims parcel and phase two of Mozaic is built , the building will stand out less. It needs some buildings who are peers (in height) to soften its scale. Mnmike is right too. The renderings of Mozaic one made the building look much better than its final result. BKV architects seem to be clever at that. They did the same thing with their Lake and Knox apartment project which ended up looking like parts of it were made out of cardboard. To me, the details of these projects need to be scrutinized more closely by The Planning Commission. Even if there isn't much they can do about it, at least they go on public record criticizing the quality of design. The community really deserves this. The developers are invested for a couple years in their projects, but the neighborhoods and city have to live with these buildings for a long, long, long time.The problem is that this is uptown's tallest building right now. Let a few nearby developments surpass its height (although that is asking for something in Minneapolis), especially phase II on this lot, then it will blend in more.
Yeah, it's basically a loan from the city. It needs to be paid back. I made that mistake on a blog post of mine and really got burned (e-mail from the developer). In anyone's defense who thought that was the case - it's nearly impossible to find really good solid info on this stuff. The Strib/Pio glosses over fine points (and maybe they should b/c most people don't care) ... and community papers are hard to keep up with (especially if it's something like the Villager).FYI the Federal money for Mozaic does need to be paid back - it was gap financing, not a grant.