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The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: July 21st, 2015, 8:55 am
by lordmoke
Plans from the CoW for the renovation of the old substation on Garfield and 33rd into apartments/ art space:
http://minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/pub ... 144049.pdf

Cool project, could do without the curb cuts.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: July 21st, 2015, 9:06 am
by PhilmerPhil
I was pretty excited about this project until I saw the renderings showing two big garage doors along the sidewalk.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: July 21st, 2015, 9:16 am
by mattaudio
This is the B. Aaron Parker project. He'd likely be happy to do a tour if people wanted it.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: July 21st, 2015, 10:55 am
by twincitizen
It's not ideal, but it's a unique re-use of a unique property. Of course he doesn't have to go with the "cluster housing" plan of adding two duplexes to the empty half of the property. It seems you could instead build a small apartment building (2.5 story) that only has access via the alley.

For a perfect example, he can look directly across Garfield to this nice apartment building. See how it fronts the alley with garages: https://www.google.com/maps/@44.942902, ... 312!8i6656

It appears the alley frontage of the project is just wide enough to fit 3 single garage stalls, as shown on his plans. It probably is not wide enough for any type of circulation, so at best you could build 3 tandem garages, for 6 total parking spaces...and even at that, would only serve 3 of the units (because it is pretty unreasonable to expect strangers to share a tandem parking situation). The only real alternative he has for the duplex fronting Garfield is to not build the parking at all. That would be totally fine, of course, except that I'm guessing he plans to sell these as condos/townhomes.

IIRC from when Aaron shared plans at the 2014 streets.mn picnic, he would live in the substation building himself, and presumably sell the 4 units in the two duplexes, rather than rent them.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: October 31st, 2015, 9:43 am
by Blaisdell Greenway
This is going before the neighborhood on Wednesday, November 4, from 6:30 to 8 at the Lyndale Community Center (36th/Nicollet). Because this is Minneapolis, it's likely to be controversial so we need as much support as possible for what is really a pretty modest project. Bring your friends!

Btw, the curb cuts are gone and there are now plans for a solar array and industrial greenhouse on the roof.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: October 31st, 2015, 10:55 am
by PhilmerPhil
Glad the curb cuts are gone! I will be there.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 4th, 2015, 10:10 pm
by BoredAgain
This is going before the neighborhood on Wednesday, November 4, from 6:30 to 8 at the Lyndale Community Center (36th/Nicollet). Because this is Minneapolis, it's likely to be controversial so we need as much support as possible for what is really a pretty modest project. Bring your friends!

Btw, the curb cuts are gone and there are now plans for a solar array and industrial greenhouse on the roof.

That was depressing.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 4th, 2015, 11:43 pm
by PhilmerPhil
Although the somewhat symbolic straw poll of everyone that showed up voted not to support the variances 16-6, the LNA housing committee voted 4-2 to support!

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 5th, 2015, 9:21 am
by twincitizen
What were some reasons given by those opposing the project?

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 5th, 2015, 9:21 am
by Nathan
Also what was the updated project like?

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 5th, 2015, 12:02 pm
by PhilmerPhil
What were some reasons given by those opposing the project?
Basically parking was the biggest issue. 17 units, but only three parking spaces. Some feared that the developer's lack of experience could lead to the project stalling after the zoning changes, leaving the new higher OR1 zoning open to anyone else to develop as they please.

The 17 units is a jump from the original 10. 1 studio, 14 1BRs, 2 2BRs, 1 3BR IIRC. Four units in the original building.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 9th, 2015, 11:02 am
by BoredAgain
What were some reasons given by those opposing the project?
Basically parking was the biggest issue. 17 units, but only three parking spaces. Some feared that the developer's lack of experience could lead to the project stalling after the zoning changes, leaving the new higher OR1 zoning open to anyone else to develop as they please.

The 17 units is a jump from the original 10. 1 studio, 14 1BRs, 2 2BRs, 1 3BR IIRC. Four units in the original building.
17 units total should be 1 studio, 13 1BRs, 2 2BRs, and 1 3BRs. Otherwise, I recall the same. Also, I am glad to hear that the committee was more supportive than the general attendance.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 10th, 2015, 3:49 pm
by dingo
Are these rentals?

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 11th, 2015, 11:38 am
by BoredAgain
Are these rentals?
I think so, but I don't think it was stated for certain in the larger group presentation.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 8:12 am
by Blaisdell Greenway
Going in front of the whole neighborhood board tonight at Painter Park, 6:30-8:00. Help is again requested.

Also, Elizabeth Glidden will be speaking about reopening Nicollet!

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 8:51 am
by Silophant
I'm going to try to be there. What a cool project.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 7:42 pm
by Silophant
Doesn't seem very Minnesota Nice to accuse someone who is building a building to personally live in of planning to allow and encourage drug deals on his front stoop.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 7:43 pm
by Anondson
Wut?

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 7:46 pm
by FISHMANPET
Lol neighborhood groups.

Re: The Amp House (3255 Garfield)

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 8:41 pm
by Silophant
So, the neighborhood voted to recommend that the variances be denied. The primary concerns seemed to be where the "80 cars" owned by the tenants of the 17 units would park, along with general worries that the neighborhood will be less safe and residentially with a small apartment building and coworking space on this corner than it currently is with a decaying abandoned industrial building.

Basically, lol neighborhood groups.