Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby Didier » March 29th, 2021, 1:18 pm

Kind of along these lines, but something else I thought of last time going through Minnehaha and Lake is that you could make an argument for having a more substantial George Floyd memorial here, and doing something more modest at 38th and Chicago.

Obviously there are a lot of emotions involved and Chicago Ave is where he actually died, so not trying to take away the significance of that location. At the same time it’s an unremarkable intersection that’s already become a giant mess, and I think it’s fair to ask if permanently closing part of the road and wedging a pocket park in front of a kind of dumpy private building is the best plan.

At the same time, the most significant rioting took place at Lake and Minnehaha, and it’s an area that desperately needs a sense of place. Assuming the third precinct eventually comes down, using part of that lot to create a small park with the fist statue or whatever else would make a lot of sense, and feels like a more likely location for people to actually visit in years to come.

Or maybe I’m exaggerating the proposals for 38th and Chicago? I just remember thinking that the plans looked kind of random and not all that pleasant.

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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby SurlyLHT » March 29th, 2021, 1:46 pm

Kind of along these lines, but something else I thought of last time going through Minnehaha and Lake is that you could make an argument for having a more substantial George Floyd memorial here, and doing something more modest at 38th and Chicago.

Obviously there are a lot of emotions involved and Chicago Ave is where he actually died, so not trying to take away the significance of that location. At the same time it’s an unremarkable intersection that’s already become a giant mess, and I think it’s fair to ask if permanently closing part of the road and wedging a pocket park in front of a kind of dumpy private building is the best plan.

At the same time, the most significant rioting took place at Lake and Minnehaha, and it’s an area that desperately needs a sense of place. Assuming the third precinct eventually comes down, using part of that lot to create a small park with the fist statue or whatever else would make a lot of sense, and feels like a more likely location for people to actually visit in years to come.

Or maybe I’m exaggerating the proposals for 38th and Chicago? I just remember thinking that the plans looked kind of random and not all that pleasant.
I agree, this location actually has space for a memorial and visitors. George Floyd Square they were just making the best of a bad situation with the given space and infrastructure. Additionally, releasing plans for a Memorial here with community partners may make opening up George Floyd Square easier.

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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby mulad » June 5th, 2021, 10:19 am

Here's a shot of the Midtown Corner project from May 29th, almost exactly a year after the previous structure burned down

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PXL_20210529_230450140 by Michael Hicks, on Flickr

May as well add photos I took the same evening of Wendy's and AutoZone:

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PXL_20210529_230734438 by Michael Hicks, on Flickr

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PXL_20210529_230850958 by Michael Hicks, on Flickr

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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby Austinite » June 5th, 2021, 6:45 pm

Like the new apartment building - better design in my opinion then the original.

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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby mulad » June 6th, 2021, 6:25 am

It's the same design?

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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby NickP » June 6th, 2021, 9:36 am

Did autozone have the brick exterior before?

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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby Austinite » June 6th, 2021, 9:27 pm

Just wondering if anyone has heard about them being able to save the signage for the historic diner that was in the building that was lost?

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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby fehler » June 7th, 2021, 7:53 am

Please tell me that Raising Cain's Chicken Tenders isn't run by some weird Christ Cult, I really want to enjoy their food when they open in the old Arby's spot.

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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby mulad » June 7th, 2021, 8:35 am

The old AutoZone technically had brick, but it had a largely white exterior. I don't know my materials all that well, but the new one appeared to be using cinder blocks for the walls, which I suspect is more substantial than what they had before. The old building was a bit farther north, zero setback against the Minnehaha Ave sidewalk, but with parking in front on the Lake Street side. This new one is pushed to the corner and seems to be more of an L-shape rather than the rectangle/trapezoid of the previous (angled on the Minnehaha side, but otherwise a rectangle).

As for Raising Cane's (a less biblical spelling), I don't know. The more prominent founder, Todd Graves, appears to have recently shifted his political donations toward Democratic candidates and orgs following a long string of donations mostly to the Republican side.

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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby seanrichardryan » June 7th, 2021, 3:21 pm

Just wondering if anyone has heard about them being able to save the signage for the historic diner that was in the building that was lost?
I don't think so. Image
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Re: Hiawatha-Lake - Minnehaha - Downtown Longfellow

Postby Austinite » June 8th, 2021, 11:57 am

Just wondering if anyone has heard about them being able to save the signage for the historic diner that was in the building that was lost?
I don't think so. Image
Damn. Maybe someone with lots of money....another piece of cool history lost.


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