2008 Bryant Avenue Apartments

[seanrichardryan]

Eh, four flights isn't much. Doing laundry in your typical basement machine scenario is equal. Even my house, from my garage to to bedroom , is 4 flights and I do that all day long. Besides, you only move the sofa twice.

[mplsjaromir]

Cities all over the world have 6+ floor walk ups. Could be why many of them do not suffer from such high rates of obesity.

[MNdible]

Obviously most SFH's aren't fully accessible either, but the other issue is that if you have a friend or family member in a wheelchair, they're not going to be able to visit your home.

[mattaudio]

Lots of people in the Developer Group asking why this has two staircases instead of one. And lots of criticism of the dual corridor-loaded layout. If this was a 3 floor above grade walkup, it would only need one stairwell. Good discussion over there with developers and architects from around the country if you want to check it out.

[seanrichardryan]

the what group?

[Anondson]

Link to this developer discussion?

[RailBaronYarr]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/smallde ... dbuilders/

It's a closed group so you need to request access. I rarely comment but it's a great source of information if you ever wanted to be a small developer.

I remain skeptical that someone could chop off the fourth floor of this one and still fit 2x2BR units on the other floors once you remove one of the now-unnecessary stairwells, holding constant the site's constraints (narrow, no alley access for parking, zoning).

Aside from the cement board siding so prominent on the front, which is really a shame given how little extra it would cost for something much better, this really ticks most of the urban design boxes quite nicely.

[antonedwards]

Seems the renderings have missed the 5' window wells.

And the 6' sidewalk running the full length.

And the 8' x 4'6" concrete Single Waste Collection Point right up front where the drive meets the sidewalk.

[RailBaronYarr]

The landscape plan on page 23 (pdf page) clearly show the area south of the building surrounding the window egress pits is sod, not sidewalk. There's 5' worth of shared driveway, which exists already serving the current home and the one to its south. A 5x8 concrete pad to store garbage cans on pickup day seems pretty reasonable to me considering many single family homes on this very block each have their own 10' concrete driveway and curb cut.

But I don't know why I'm responding to someone who just created parody twitter, MinnPost, and streets.mn forum accounts under the combined name of two local bloggers! Madness!

[Anondson]

Someone on to the "conspiracy" behind the missing middle movement? The layers are deep. Maybe it's the new Consortium?

[VAStationDude]

This is being appealed to z&p April 21. I don't see anything in the appeal on which an appeal could be granted. Weak!

[mattaudio]

Look in the Small Area Plan.

[David Greene]

Got a flyer on our door today from "Minneapolis Neighbors United" about their appeal. The neighborhood meeting is Wed. night. Should be interesting. While I'm not thrilled about the house going, I'm not gonna fight it. Nor will I defend the project. It's just kind of a big "meh" to me in the end. I do hope someone will salvage the interior. If not, give me a crack and I'll take some stuff we could use in our house!

[mattaudio]

When and where is the meeting?

[David Greene]

When and where is the meeting?

It's the annual meeting, not a meeting on this project specifically.

[RailBaronYarr]

The appeal (on the grounds of inadequate trash size/location and required landscaping) was denied 4-0 by Z&P today. After a whole lot of testimony from neighbors.

[Nathan]

The house has been demolished.

[seanrichardryan]

Now, if they didn't have a formal easement with the neighboring property, could the driveway be demoed since the impediment to access has been removed? The neighboring house could easily move their access to the south side of their lot.

[David Greene]

The house has been demolished.

Anyone know if anything was salvaged?

[seanrichardryan]

Just the leaded windows I think.