Street, Road and Highway Projects

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xandrex
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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby xandrex » December 10th, 2020, 11:35 am

I like this design much better than what currently exists, but I have to agree with DanPatchToget...why the two-way bikeway? I'd much rather have a protected lane on each side, and this forces a "to continue, please wait to cross this intersection and then wait again" where two-way bikeways run into normal bike lanes.

Also, is a 4-foot width the standard for bike lanes? Is there a reason we can't steal a foot or two from the boulevards to at least make this bikeway a bit wider?

SurlyLHT
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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby SurlyLHT » December 10th, 2020, 11:54 am

I like this design much better than what currently exists, but I have to agree with DanPatchToget...why the two-way bikeway? I'd much rather have a protected lane on each side, and this forces a "to continue, please wait to cross this intersection and then wait again" where two-way bikeways run into normal bike lanes.

Also, is a 4-foot width the standard for bike lanes? Is there a reason we can't steal a foot or two from the boulevards to at least make this bikeway a bit wider?
Bryant is pretty easy to cross, I don't see this being an issue. I've also had the same issue with one way protected bike lanes. I often go the wrong way on the Plymouth Avenue protected bike lanes because there is too much traffic to cross into the proper protected bike lane. I just look over my shoulder and wait usually a block or so before I can hop over. (And that is without regular rush hour.)

Maybe we should make some of these protected bike lanes on both sides two ways on both sides? We have two-way Mtb trails which are much narrower.

spearson
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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby spearson » December 28th, 2020, 11:54 am

If any of you commute on Highway 10 through Anoka and Ramsay you're in for a world of hurt starting next year and running through ~2025 as three projects get underway.

First is the project rebuilding Highway 10 from West Main to Thurston. West Main bridge gets replaced and exit ramps get round-abouts, Fairoak intersection is removed and turned into an underpass, and Thurston get's an underpass interchange.

Second is 7th Ave to West Main. Work to the rail overpass, removal of both the current bridge and old rail bridge at 4th street and replaced with single bridge, and replacement of the Ferry Street bridge.

Third is projects to Ramsay Blvd, and Sunfish Blvd in Ramsay (immediately west of Thurston Av). These intersections will become overpasses.

Upon completion of all of these, Highway 10 will be free of lights all the way out to 171st Ave in Elk River.

EOst
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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby EOst » December 28th, 2020, 11:58 am

Ramsey County's Rice Street Visioning Study (redesigning Rice from Pennsylvania Ave to Wheelock Pkwy) continues to move forward. The study team has posted design concepts that could be applied to Rice, all of which assume that the current four lane configuration is no longer viable.

Provide feedback on the concepts here: https://www.ramseycounty.us/residents/r ... udy-design

alexschief
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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby alexschief » December 28th, 2020, 12:13 pm

All of these would be an improvement. aBRT seems like the biggest X-factor here, both in terms of the space needed for the stations and the potential benefits of left-turn lanes.

Trademark
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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby Trademark » December 28th, 2020, 2:58 pm

All of these would be an improvement. aBRT seems like the biggest X-factor here, both in terms of the space needed for the stations and the potential benefits of left-turn lanes.
The one thing I don't like with these road diets is that in most cases it prevents bus lanes from being implemented.

We need to be fighting wherever possible for future abrt to follow the potential footsteps of hennepin and have bus lanes implemented.

mamundsen
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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby mamundsen » December 28th, 2020, 3:17 pm

If any of you commute on Highway 10 through Anoka and Ramsay you're in for a world of hurt starting next year and running through ~2025 as three projects get underway.

First is the project rebuilding Highway 10 from West Main to Thurston. West Main bridge gets replaced and exit ramps get round-abouts, Fairoak intersection is removed and turned into an underpass, and Thurston get's an underpass interchange.

Second is 7th Ave to West Main. Work to the rail overpass, removal of both the current bridge and old rail bridge at 4th street and replaced with single bridge, and replacement of the Ferry Street bridge.

Third is projects to Ramsay Blvd, and Sunfish Blvd in Ramsay (immediately west of Thurston Av). These intersections will become overpasses.

Upon completion of all of these, Highway 10 will be free of lights all the way out to 171st Ave in Elk River.
There is also a project on 169 to remove the stop lights in Elk River running 2022-2024. It will be interesting to see how it is managed with this being almost 14 miles of continuous construction.

Also to consider, this is a major “Cabin route” to head up north. I’m thankful that this past year has proven WFH is acceptable and I think it will lead to more flexibility and less “rush hour” traffic.

Project sites:
Hwy 10 — Anoka
Construct new interchange at Thurston Avenue, build underpass at Fairoak Avenue and extend West Main Street; Remove all Hwy 10 access in project area. Scheduled for construction in 2021-2022
https://clients.bolton-menk.com/hwy10/

Hwy 10 — Anoka Rum River Bridge replacement
Replace Hwy 10 bridge over the Rum River;Additional funding being sought to reconstruct Ferry Street (Hwy 47/Hwy 169) interchange and build auxiliary lanes from Ferry Street to Seventh Avenue. Scheduled for construction in 2022
https://www.dot.state.mn.us/metro/proje ... index.html

Hwy 10 — Ramsey
Scheduled for construction in 2023
http://www.anokacountyramseygateway.com/

Hwy 169 — Elk River freeway
Convert three miles of Hwy 169 to a new freeway system through Elk River from Hwy 101/Hwy 10 to 197th Ave, Sherburne County. Corridors of Commerce project. Preliminary design in progress; scheduled for construction in 2022-2024
https://www.dot.state.mn.us/d3/elkriver ... index.html
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alexschief
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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby alexschief » December 28th, 2020, 3:29 pm

All of these would be an improvement. aBRT seems like the biggest X-factor here, both in terms of the space needed for the stations and the potential benefits of left-turn lanes.
The one thing I don't like with these road diets is that in most cases it prevents bus lanes from being implemented.

We need to be fighting wherever possible for future abrt to follow the potential footsteps of hennepin and have bus lanes implemented.
I don't completely agree, there are many areas where there simply isn't enough congestion to warrant bus lanes, and where that right-of-way (a significant amount!) would be far better used to provide great pedestrian and bicycle facilities. Rice Street is in that category to my mind, but Hennepin is not, I think Hennepin does need bus lanes.

Trademark
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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby Trademark » December 28th, 2020, 4:06 pm

All of these would be an improvement. aBRT seems like the biggest X-factor here, both in terms of the space needed for the stations and the potential benefits of left-turn lanes.
The one thing I don't like with these road diets is that in most cases it prevents bus lanes from being implemented.

We need to be fighting wherever possible for future abrt to follow the potential footsteps of hennepin and have bus lanes implemented.
I don't completely agree, there are many areas where there simply isn't enough congestion to warrant bus lanes, and where that right-of-way (a significant amount!) would be far better used to provide great pedestrian and bicycle facilities. Rice Street is in that category to my mind, but Hennepin is not, I think Hennepin does need bus lanes.
There isn't enough congestion now but if traffic is reduced to 2 lanes. Then moving around a long line of cars can become more beneficial and also great advertising to get people out of cars.

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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby Mdcastle » December 28th, 2020, 8:49 pm

If any of you commute on Highway 10 through Anoka and Ramsay you're already experiencing a world of hurt...

Tcmetro
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Re: Street, Road and Highway Projects

Postby Tcmetro » January 17th, 2021, 5:53 pm

There is a new study underway for Hwy 77 between 494 and Apple Valley:
https://www.dot.state.mn.us/metro/proje ... tings.html


Youtube presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHDSBnhhMjA
Public input is an integral part of the Hwy 77/Cedar Ave. corridor study. Throughout this year, the community will have opportunities to provide input on the corridor and provide feedback. Information about upcoming meetings will be posted as details become available.
Wed, Jan. 27
Virtual open house #1
12-1:30 p.m.
A link to this event will be posted on Jan. 27
Call in option available by dialing: 844-621-3956
Access code: 145 658 3386

Wed, Jan. 27
Virtual open house #2
6-7:30 p.m.
A link to this event will be posted on Jan. 27
Call in option available by dialing: 844-621-3956
Access code: 145 612 2505

Online open house available until Feb. 14

Review the presentation to learn about the project, existing conditions and anticipated schedule
Participate on the interactive map and tell us about your concerns, issues and ideas
Join our email list to receive project updates
EDIT:
I've also come across upcoming meetings for the I-94/252 project. Some EIS presentations should also be available soon.

https://www.dot.state.mn.us/metro/proje ... tings.html
Fri, Feb. 12
Virtual Policy Advisory Committee meeting
1-2:30 p.m.
Register for this meeting
This meeting is open to the public to attend and comment. There will be a 15-minute open comment period at the end of the meeting for attendees to provide comments on the project.

Wed, Feb. 3
EIS “101” virtual listening sessions: Listening Session #1
5-6:30 p.m.
Registration information will be posted when available.

Public EIS 101 virtual listening sessions are opportunities for the public to learn more about specific project topics and to offer comments and questions to project subject matter experts.


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