Purple Line BRT (Rush Line Corridor)

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Vagueperson » February 22nd, 2020, 3:17 pm

Updates to Rush Line proposals that seemed significant to me.
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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Tcmetro » February 23rd, 2020, 7:51 am

The slides for each meeting are posted on the project website:
https://www.ramseycounty.us/residents/r ... ct-library

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Vagueperson » February 23rd, 2020, 8:51 am

Do any BRT projects use gates? Blue Line has gates on Hiawatha? I'm guessing this is unlikely to happen.
It's also weird that Mendota Circle is a public street. Seems like just a driveway to a private parking lot. Does *not* seem deserving of a traffic light.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby DanPatchToget » May 23rd, 2020, 9:16 am

Design guide for the segments along the railroad right-of-way-https://www.ramseycounty.us/sites/defau ... ovdelivery

I didn't read through all of it so maybe the answer is in there, but what happens when people inevitably bike and walk on the busway despite the trail being right next to it?

Also it seems odd that the right-of-way is eligible for the National Register of Historic Places, which means more studies "to understand the effects to this resource." I know it was the first railroad corridor between St. Paul and Duluth, but it's already changed a lot (the most obvious being the tracks are gone with a trail put in its place) so why the studies?

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby mamundsen » May 23rd, 2020, 9:47 am

This design does fee closer to the “light rail on wheels” that is often discussed with BRT but it is the other segments that concern me with this line. A 40+ min travel time from WBL to St Paul is just too long.

Eventually we will have to figure out how to make this line and green line faster to attract peak ridership.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby alexschief » May 23rd, 2020, 1:47 pm

What's the time cost of the jog to Maplewood Mall?

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Bakken2016 » May 23rd, 2020, 1:54 pm

What's the time cost of the jog to Maplewood Mall?
That either should be removed or do an online station with a skyway.


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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby DanPatchToget » May 23rd, 2020, 3:26 pm

How much travel time could be saved if all the signalized intersections on the route had bus preemption?

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Tiller » July 14th, 2020, 12:52 pm

There's a Station survey to fill out for the Rush Line, the given deadline is by August 1st! https://experience.arcgis.com/experienc ... fa984c9f2/

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby MSPtoMKE » July 15th, 2020, 7:02 pm

I believe these 15% Design Plans are pretty recent, they are dated 7/1/20. I wasn't aware that bus lanes were planned (as part of a separate project) for Robert St. in downtown, for instance. All in all, a fairly significant amount of this project has dedicated lanes or a busway, compared to the BRT we are used to around here.

https://www.ramseycounty.us/sites/defau ... 200702.pdf
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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Tcmetro » October 9th, 2020, 7:34 pm

Rush Line PAC had a meeting yesterday, slides available in the project library.

https://www.ramseycounty.us/residents/r ... ct-library

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Bakken2016 » December 11th, 2020, 3:10 pm

Every now and then I see one of these about the Rush Line. And they are usually White Bear Lake residents.

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby DanPatchToget » December 11th, 2020, 3:23 pm

I've seen a couple about how the Rush Line will destroy Downtown White Bear Lake, among other letters that can be summed up as "this is change and change is scary."

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Bakken2016 » May 12th, 2021, 3:52 pm

The Environmental Assessment is available to view.

https://www.ramseycounty.us/residents/r ... al-process

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Tcmetro » July 12th, 2021, 1:20 pm

Rush Line is officially the Purple Line:

https://metrocouncil.org/Council-Meetin ... ne)-B.aspx

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby twincitizen » July 12th, 2021, 10:36 pm

Thanks, I hate it

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Trademark » July 13th, 2021, 12:48 am

Thanks, I hate it
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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby twincitizen » July 13th, 2021, 5:32 pm

IMO Silver Line would be a better fit, with the 2 east metro BRTs then being Gold and Silver. Plus it would reserve Purple for Riverview. But mostly I’m annoyed at the Purple thing because a Ramsey County Commissioner long ago earmarked Purple for this line specifically because it gave them Purple & Gold, which they stated they wanted because it is the Vikings’ colors (which is moronic reasoning since neither line goes to the Vikings stadium).

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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby Silophant » July 13th, 2021, 5:37 pm

Gonna be crucial in St Paul's bid to get the next vikings stadium though. Playing the loooong game.
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Re: Rush Line Corridor BRT

Postby DanPatchToget » July 13th, 2021, 8:14 pm

Gonna be crucial in St Paul's bid to get the next vikings stadium though. Playing the loooong game.
Don't give them any ideas. :lol:

If I could go back in time and change it, this would've been the Silver Line since I can see the logic with having the Gold and Silver Lines both being in Downtown St. Paul, serving the east metro, and running mostly on dedicated bus lanes. Also reserve purple for a light rail route, likely Riverview, so people would be riding the Purple Train (too bad it wouldn't go near Paisley Park).


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