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Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 15th, 2015, 8:24 pm
by lordmoke
UST student in critical condition after being struck by a driver while riding his bike on Cleveland Avenue:
http://m.startribune.com/a-st-thomas-st ... 350226471/
Sure would be nice if there had been bike lanes there to prevent this...

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 15th, 2015, 8:51 pm
by Anondson
And doesn't UST advocate for no bike lanes for their biking students?

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 15th, 2015, 9:00 pm
by grant1simons2
Yes. They were against the lanes on Cleveland.

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 15th, 2015, 9:24 pm
by Anondson
So much angry snark directed to that university being held back...

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 15th, 2015, 10:03 pm
by seanrichardryan
In a different take, PP says the helmet-less bicyclist was crossing Cleveland at Jefferson.
http://www.twincities.com/news/ramsey%2 ... -collision

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 15th, 2015, 11:13 pm
by mattaudio
Was the motorist wearing a helmet?

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 16th, 2015, 8:25 am
by Rich
there appears to have been no misconduct or impairment on the part of the driver...reports indicate the collision may have been the fault of the cyclist

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 16th, 2015, 8:37 am
by mattaudio
1. Misconduct or impairment are a very high burden for motorists. We will likely never know if the driver was going above the speed limit, or if they were distracted by an intense conversation, or anything else. Our concept of what is negligence on the part of motorists is ridiculously limited. As the saying goes, "If you want to kill someone legally, do it with your car."

2. We don't know if there are third parties who witnessed this and contributed to reports. But if there are, they're statistically likely to self-identify first as motorists and sympathize with a motorist. But right now the motorist is able to speak freely while the cyclist can only share their story through simple hand movements in response to questions.

3. This entire concept that one of the two parties is at fault is simplistic. The entire system fails all of us, a system that allows high-speed traffic on streets such as Cleveland.

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 16th, 2015, 9:35 am
by Rich
Could it be possible that this cyclist ignored a stop sign and sped into the path of an oncoming vehicle? And if that’s indeed what happened, would “the entire system” still be to blame?

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 16th, 2015, 9:54 am
by FISHMANPET
Yes

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Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 16th, 2015, 11:07 am
by acs
Could it be possible that this cyclist ignored a stop sign and sped into the path of an oncoming vehicle? And if that’s indeed what happened, would “the entire system” still be to blame?
Of course, cars are always the enemy #waroncars.

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 16th, 2015, 12:07 pm
by Anondson
Mostly a war on institutional driver supremacy. #SarcasmButNotSarcasm

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 16th, 2015, 12:49 pm
by seanrichardryan
PP update:
At about 11:45 a.m., a driver was northbound on Cleveland Avenue at Jefferson Avenue and noticed a bicyclist enter the intersection from the sidewalk, said Sgt. Mike Ernster, a police spokesman. The bicyclist slowed, but couldn't stop in time, according to police. Witnesses reported the vehicle had the right-of-way, Ernster said.
http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_ ... evere-bike

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 27th, 2015, 6:04 pm
by Sacrelicio
Could it be possible that this cyclist ignored a stop sign and sped into the path of an oncoming vehicle? And if that’s indeed what happened, would “the entire system” still be to blame?
Of course, cars are always the enemy #waroncars.
War on cars? I drive, bike, walk, and take the bus, and that's a ridiculous statement. I don't like how people drive and I don't like how the infrastructure is designed. It's an unsafe system, and cars and trucks are the most dangerous vehicles on it. Hell, I don't like how I drive sometimes, and I try to be very careful. Our system encourages bad driving and vilifies other modes.

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 29th, 2015, 11:15 pm
by trigonalmayhem
#waroninhumaneinfrastructure or maybe #waronunsaferoaddesign or maybe #notalltrafficengineers or maybe #waronpeoplewhothinktrafficflowismoreimportantthanhumanlife

Take your pick.

Re: Road Crime

Posted: November 30th, 2015, 12:03 am
by seanrichardryan
hashtags don't work on the forum

Re: Road Crime

Posted: December 5th, 2015, 11:16 pm
by Anondson
Car turned its driver in for a hit and run.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense ... d_run.html

Summary: the crash detection system noticed airbags were deployed, used the Bluetooth-paired phone to call assistance.

Re: Road Crime

Posted: December 6th, 2015, 12:33 pm
by trigonalmayhem
hashtags don't work on the forum
They weren't supposed to work. I have a disdain for the use of hashtags to apply metadata.

Re: Road Crime

Posted: December 6th, 2015, 9:34 pm
by seanrichardryan

Re: Road Crime

Posted: December 6th, 2015, 9:52 pm
by grant1simons2
Ughhhhh. I could've definitely see that being a factor. Last year when we did nerf wars, there were things that could've gotten us a big big fine or a night in jail. Such as speeding over 40-50 mph in neighborhoods to get away from people, hiding in the back of trucks and popping up to attack someone while driving, riding on top of cars, etc. It's probably something that could be banned from schools one day.