First post here, but can someone explain why a BRT line like the Orange line is labeled differently than the A,B,C, etc lines? Like what is the difference between these lines, is it dedicated lanes or what?
Thanks!
Labeling the Transit System
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In theory BRT like the Orange Line and LRT are supposed to be "rapid transit" and are meant for traveling greater distances, while aBRT is meant to be an improved alternative to local buses.
In practice it's a distinction without a difference. You could call the A Line the Mauve Line or call the Red Line the Q Line. BRT and aBRT both run on regular streets at short headways with fare prepayment and fancy vehicles. Both run in mixed traffic for parts of their routes with some transit advantages; BRT gets to sometimes use shoulders or carpool lanes (and the Gold and Rush lines will have portions running in a separate dedicated guideway) while aBRT gets signal priority.
The biggest difference seems to be that aBRT primarily serves the city and BRT primarily serves the burbs, the stop spacing in the burbs is greater, and capital costs for BRT are an order of magnitude higher.
In practice it's a distinction without a difference. You could call the A Line the Mauve Line or call the Red Line the Q Line. BRT and aBRT both run on regular streets at short headways with fare prepayment and fancy vehicles. Both run in mixed traffic for parts of their routes with some transit advantages; BRT gets to sometimes use shoulders or carpool lanes (and the Gold and Rush lines will have portions running in a separate dedicated guideway) while aBRT gets signal priority.
The biggest difference seems to be that aBRT primarily serves the city and BRT primarily serves the burbs, the stop spacing in the burbs is greater, and capital costs for BRT are an order of magnitude higher.
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Because there is no solidified plan for either the streetcar or aBRT yet.Why wouldn't Central be included on that map? Any insight?
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Yes, you are correct. The BRT office is still studying them for their final routings.Are the B and E line stops not labeled because they haven’t officially decided on them yet?
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I think the 14th St stop on the Rush Line and the Robert St stop on the Green Line are meant to be a transfer point, though they'll be right around the corner from one another. This is not shown well on the map, but I think it will be difficult to show it simply, given the quick turns of the Green Line.
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Are the B and E line stops not labeled because they haven’t officially decided on them yet?
The E Line is going to be massively expanded; this still shows the initial thoughts from a few years ago. It will not connect to the SWLRT West Lake Station, but rather allow the B Line to do that work for it.Dead-ending the E Line at the Warehouse stop hurts my brain so much.
The E Line will go from the U East Bank all the way to Southdale, via Xerxes or France.
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Thank you! The orange line will use dedicated lanes when it’s downtown though correct?In theory BRT like the Orange Line and LRT are supposed to be "rapid transit" and are meant for traveling greater distances, while aBRT is meant to be an improved alternative to local buses.
In practice it's a distinction without a difference. You could call the A Line the Mauve Line or call the Red Line the Q Line. BRT and aBRT both run on regular streets at short headways with fare prepayment and fancy vehicles. Both run in mixed traffic for parts of their routes with some transit advantages; BRT gets to sometimes use shoulders or carpool lanes (and the Gold and Rush lines will have portions running in a separate dedicated guideway) while aBRT gets signal priority.
The biggest difference seems to be that aBRT primarily serves the city and BRT primarily serves the burbs, the stop spacing in the burbs is greater, and capital costs for BRT are an order of magnitude higher.
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Yep it will use the Marq 2 corridor bus lanesThank you! The orange line will use dedicated lanes when it’s downtown though correct?In theory BRT like the Orange Line and LRT are supposed to be "rapid transit" and are meant for traveling greater distances, while aBRT is meant to be an improved alternative to local buses.
In practice it's a distinction without a difference. You could call the A Line the Mauve Line or call the Red Line the Q Line. BRT and aBRT both run on regular streets at short headways with fare prepayment and fancy vehicles. Both run in mixed traffic for parts of their routes with some transit advantages; BRT gets to sometimes use shoulders or carpool lanes (and the Gold and Rush lines will have portions running in a separate dedicated guideway) while aBRT gets signal priority.
The biggest difference seems to be that aBRT primarily serves the city and BRT primarily serves the burbs, the stop spacing in the burbs is greater, and capital costs for BRT are an order of magnitude higher.
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On Marquette and 2nd Avenues yes, but with all the bus traffic during rush hour it’ll be a little slow.Thank you! The orange line will use dedicated lanes when it’s downtown though correct?In theory BRT like the Orange Line and LRT are supposed to be "rapid transit" and are meant for traveling greater distances, while aBRT is meant to be an improved alternative to local buses.
In practice it's a distinction without a difference. You could call the A Line the Mauve Line or call the Red Line the Q Line. BRT and aBRT both run on regular streets at short headways with fare prepayment and fancy vehicles. Both run in mixed traffic for parts of their routes with some transit advantages; BRT gets to sometimes use shoulders or carpool lanes (and the Gold and Rush lines will have portions running in a separate dedicated guideway) while aBRT gets signal priority.
The biggest difference seems to be that aBRT primarily serves the city and BRT primarily serves the burbs, the stop spacing in the burbs is greater, and capital costs for BRT are an order of magnitude higher.
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https://imgflip.com/i/2zftr4?herp=1556209046395On Marquette and 2nd Avenues yes, but with all the bus traffic during rush hour it’ll be a little slow.Thank you! The orange line will use dedicated lanes when it’s downtown though correct?In theory BRT like the Orange Line and LRT are supposed to be "rapid transit" and are meant for traveling greater distances, while aBRT is meant to be an improved alternative to local buses.
In practice it's a distinction without a difference. You could call the A Line the Mauve Line or call the Red Line the Q Line. BRT and aBRT both run on regular streets at short headways with fare prepayment and fancy vehicles. Both run in mixed traffic for parts of their routes with some transit advantages; BRT gets to sometimes use shoulders or carpool lanes (and the Gold and Rush lines will have portions running in a separate dedicated guideway) while aBRT gets signal priority.
The biggest difference seems to be that aBRT primarily serves the city and BRT primarily serves the burbs, the stop spacing in the burbs is greater, and capital costs for BRT are an order of magnitude higher.
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