Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Northeast, Near North, Camden, Old St. Anthony, University and surrounding neighborhoods
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Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Postby MNdible » December 8th, 2020, 10:04 am

Per the submission, there's a huge 96" sewer interceptor line that has an easement that diagonals under the front swath of the parking lot, so there's probably no viable way to have this building front directly onto Marshall. Also, by the time you're this far up Marshall, any pretense of urbanity has pretty much vanished -- I know it doesn't fix the problem, but it's also not going to be an anomaly.

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Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Postby drgrant » December 8th, 2020, 11:38 am

Even if they can't build over the pipe, there is still plenty of space to front the building along the parkway and hide the parking to the rear (north).

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Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Postby seanrichardryan » December 8th, 2020, 1:02 pm

To be fair, the 'urbanity' of this section of Marshall has slowly been torn down by Xcel themsleves.
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Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Postby nordeast homer » December 9th, 2020, 2:52 pm

First off, it's an operations center. I think the name itself says bland and boring. I think for the type of facility this is they did a decent job. OATI reconstructed the old Honeywell building a couple of blocks away from this and I think the Xcel building looks better than that one.
I don't think Xcel has any intentions of housing other businesses or having residences on their properties, so anything mixed use is a non starter.

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Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Postby grant1simons2 » December 9th, 2020, 4:32 pm

The last industrial building to be built in this area was in 1994. This is not in line with the cities interests pertaining to transportation and livability goals. This is pushed right up against the park. I'm not going to ask for mixed use immediately, but this is a non starter.

People seem to believe that this is an ok move, meanwhile many of you support Upper Harbor Terminal. What's the key difference here? Do you believe that the project on that side of the river is more accomplishable due to 94? That it will serve as a economic hub for north? It will still be surrounded by industry.

One of the largest failures of the 2040 plan was the lack of zoning conversion along the riverfront. We need to give this space back to the people to create a more sustainable urban environment for the future. That's not done with a sea of parking and a small office building used 5 days and week, 8 hours a day.

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Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Postby Silophant » December 9th, 2020, 6:21 pm

Not disagreeing with your main point (looks like I'm going to work here and dodge pickups while riding my bike through the windswept parking desert, so I'm personally offended by this proposal), but the control centers are very much 24-7 operations.

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Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Postby Silophant » December 10th, 2020, 4:03 pm

From the planning application dashboard, looks like there's an application coming down the pipe for a cluster development at 2648 Marshall, which is a duplex adjacent to the ready mix concrete plant north of Lowry. It's a strange lot - it looks to be a standard 40' wide, but it goes all the way back to the river, so it's close to 400' deep. Should be interesting to see what they're proposing to do there.


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