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Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: December 8th, 2020, 10:04 am
by MNdible
Per the submission, there's a huge 96" sewer interceptor line that has an easement that diagonals under the front swath of the parking lot, so there's probably no viable way to have this building front directly onto Marshall. Also, by the time you're this far up Marshall, any pretense of urbanity has pretty much vanished -- I know it doesn't fix the problem, but it's also not going to be an anomaly.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: December 8th, 2020, 11:38 am
by drgrant
Even if they can't build over the pipe, there is still plenty of space to front the building along the parkway and hide the parking to the rear (north).

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: December 8th, 2020, 1:02 pm
by seanrichardryan
To be fair, the 'urbanity' of this section of Marshall has slowly been torn down by Xcel themsleves.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: December 9th, 2020, 2:52 pm
by nordeast homer
First off, it's an operations center. I think the name itself says bland and boring. I think for the type of facility this is they did a decent job. OATI reconstructed the old Honeywell building a couple of blocks away from this and I think the Xcel building looks better than that one.
I don't think Xcel has any intentions of housing other businesses or having residences on their properties, so anything mixed use is a non starter.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: December 9th, 2020, 4:32 pm
by grant1simons2
The last industrial building to be built in this area was in 1994. This is not in line with the cities interests pertaining to transportation and livability goals. This is pushed right up against the park. I'm not going to ask for mixed use immediately, but this is a non starter.

People seem to believe that this is an ok move, meanwhile many of you support Upper Harbor Terminal. What's the key difference here? Do you believe that the project on that side of the river is more accomplishable due to 94? That it will serve as a economic hub for north? It will still be surrounded by industry.

One of the largest failures of the 2040 plan was the lack of zoning conversion along the riverfront. We need to give this space back to the people to create a more sustainable urban environment for the future. That's not done with a sea of parking and a small office building used 5 days and week, 8 hours a day.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: December 9th, 2020, 6:21 pm
by Silophant
Not disagreeing with your main point (looks like I'm going to work here and dodge pickups while riding my bike through the windswept parking desert, so I'm personally offended by this proposal), but the control centers are very much 24-7 operations.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: December 10th, 2020, 4:03 pm
by Silophant
From the planning application dashboard, looks like there's an application coming down the pipe for a cluster development at 2648 Marshall, which is a duplex adjacent to the ready mix concrete plant north of Lowry. It's a strange lot - it looks to be a standard 40' wide, but it goes all the way back to the river, so it's close to 400' deep. Should be interesting to see what they're proposing to do there.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: March 17th, 2021, 8:21 am
by SurlyLHT
Xcel revised their plans. It looks better. Does this need it's own thread?

https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/download ... %20St%20NE

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: March 27th, 2021, 5:13 pm
by twincitizen
The Gasthof property (half a block, 1.2 acres) is for sale for $3.1MM. At that price they are definitely targeting redevelopment, not someone to take over and run the restaurant. The description in the listing confirms.

https://www.edinarealty.com/commercial- ... 18-5496081

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: March 27th, 2021, 6:08 pm
by Silophant
Damnit, I just moved to within staggering distance. I would have liked to get one Oktoberfest in before they closed.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: March 29th, 2021, 9:46 am
by talindsay
They were the Nazi party restaurant, no? Redevelopment is probably a good idea.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: March 29th, 2021, 10:09 am
by HKM
The Gasthof property (half a block, 1.2 acres) is for sale for $3.1MM. At that price they are definitely targeting redevelopment, not someone to take over and run the restaurant. The description in the listing confirms.

https://www.edinarealty.com/commercial- ... 18-5496081
It's been on the market for a year- I've been hoping for Aldi plus apartments like at 26th & Lyndale Ave S!

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: March 29th, 2021, 7:13 pm
by go4guy
They were the Nazi party restaurant, no? Redevelopment is probably a good idea.
What?

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: March 29th, 2021, 7:17 pm
by go4guy
Nevermind. Looked it up. Yikes!

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: March 30th, 2021, 9:15 am
by nordeast homer
It had been sold since that incident. The new owners were trying to cater to a younger and much different crowd.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: March 30th, 2021, 12:04 pm
by twincitizen
Glam Doll NE is no more. They're already cleared out and the space is for lease.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: April 30th, 2021, 7:23 pm
by Silophant
Looks like they're finally building the other set of townhomes in the River Run development at 1428 Marshall.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: June 10th, 2021, 9:31 am
by Anondson

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: June 10th, 2021, 9:53 am
by drgrant
I assume there are trademark and marketing issues, but I think it would be cool if they kept that old GM logo on the tower.

Re: Northeast and Southeast Minneapolis - General Topics

Posted: June 10th, 2021, 10:58 am
by Silophant
This area desperately needs a district parking ramp instead of every building providing its own surface lot.