And this photo op.
![Image](https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/l/t1.0-9/12107798_10156378098015001_5183018239402663872_n.jpg?oh=9e246c0b0bd71f866ea012ffc93e6f04&oe=5692BB45)
Really? I only go maybe once a year (a shame as Carl Craig is sort of a friend), but even when we sit with the Dark Clouds, I've never seen anything that was concerning. Maybe there are chants/songs I don't know the origin of, but my sense is that crap would not be tolerated. And Nick Rogers and the front office seem to be pretty progressive too.I see this type of stuff too much with the MN United.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/magaz ... lture.html
From Seattle https://www.weareecs.com/multimedia/songsRISING OF THE NORTH
There will be blood,
There will be gore,
But we came ready,
Ready for War.
We are the children,
Of the North,
Minnesota,
To the core.
When you hear.
Our battle cry,
You be ready,
Ready to die.
You will fear,
The rising of the North!
The rising of the North!
The rising of the North! x2
We came to drink
We came to drink, we came to sing whoa whoa
We came to drink, we came to sing whoa whoa
We came to drink, we came to sing ECS from one thirteen!
Whoa, ooohhh, oohh
Burn destroy wreck and kill whoa, whoa
Burn destroy wreck and kill whoa, whoa
Burn destroy wreck and kill, Seattle Sounders surely will!
Whoa, ooohhh, oohh
Emerald City we are here, whoa whoa
Emerald City we are here, whoa whoa
Emerald City we are here, supporting Sounders drinking beer!
Whoa, ooohhh, oohh
I don't think it's that. I think it's that "men are getting falsely accused of sexual assault on campus and it's unfair" has been a right wing talking point for awhile, so that you see even people who weren't enamored of Claeys being outraged that he was fired over something as silly a girl having second thoughts about her sexual behavior. (For the record, that's not my view of what happened, just how some characterize it)In these coaches people saw small-town men of great integrity, guys who represented their rural values in a major institution.
Your response appears to come from the presumption that there is no possible rational reason for being upset about this. "People don't like the Gopher's coach getting fired? Clearly that's because they are rape apologists that thinks campus sexual assault is a myth." That strikes me as intellectually lazy (and, I might add, is precisely in the strike-zone of the alt-right narrative: "if you dare question any facet of the socially progressive agenda, it is de-facto evidence that you are a racist, sexist, homophobe, islamophobe, etc.").I don't think it's that. I think it's that "men are getting falsely accused of sexual assault on campus and it's unfair" has been a right wing talking point for awhile, so that you see even people who weren't enamored of Claeys being outraged that he was fired over something as silly a girl having second thoughts about her sexual behavior. (For the record, that's not my view of what happened, just how some characterize it)In these coaches people saw small-town men of great integrity, guys who represented their rural values in a major institution.
So, start with Title IX's unfair, add the belief that the real issue with campus sexual violence is false accusations, thus you get sympathy with the boycott and the obvious conclusion that Claeys was right to back him players and viola, firing him is unfair.
Sure, I know that's part of it, but I really think this is less ideological and more about the feeling that a simple, country man with good intentions got the short end of the stick from "the elite."So, start with Title IX's unfair, add the belief that the real issue with campus sexual violence is false accusations, thus you get sympathy with the boycott and the obvious conclusion that Claeys was right to back him players and viola, firing him is unfair.
There is very little rational reason to be upset that a coach got fired because 10 of his players had to be suspended because they are accused of campus conduct violations, including alleged sexual violence, and he completely failed to (1) effectively communicate to his team why and what the process is going forward, (2) publicly undermined his superiors, (3) failed to take responsibility for the discipline agreed to with his boss, and (4) simply did not seem to understand the magnitude of the situation.Your response appears to come from the presumption that there is no possible rational reason for being upset about this.
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