Dinky "tower" - McDonalds redevelopment

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Re: Dinkytower - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby trkaiser » November 1st, 2019, 10:20 am

I'm pleasantly surprised by this and see it as a totally appropriate, nice step forward for that part of town.

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Re: Dinkytower - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby nBode » November 1st, 2019, 1:59 pm

It certainly is very very ugly.

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Re: Dinkytower - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby Bob Stinson's Ghost » November 1st, 2019, 11:49 pm

It certainly is very very ugly.
Looks very profitable.

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Re: Dinkytower - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby bapster2006 » December 4th, 2019, 10:14 am

The latest planning documents. Recommending to deny the site plan.

http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/www/gro ... 221901.pdf

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Re: Dinkytower - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby talindsay » December 4th, 2019, 2:01 pm

I'm most impressed by the staff recommended denial of the FAR, because they go to the trouble to (a) specifically call out the new Minneapolis 2040 plan and how this could have been made to comply with it; and (b) point to the massing of the building as a specific reason for not supporting the ten-story design, stating that setbacks to mitigate the appearance of bulk could have made the staff supportive. It's interesting, but appropriate that this critique falls under FAR - they recommend granting the 10-story height variance, and denying the accompanying FAR since it results in a building with too much bulk. That's a good bit of nuance for a staff review.

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Re: Dinkytower - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby MNdible » December 18th, 2019, 9:56 am

Any word as to whether they've appealed this denial? I'm wondering if their decision to purchase the 200 Central site was at least in part a reaction to this project not being shovel ready.

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Re: Dinkytower - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby jtoemke » December 18th, 2019, 8:19 pm

They got rid of that strange split crown at the corner.

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Re: Dinkytower - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby alexschief » June 11th, 2020, 6:52 am

I initially wondered if all of the work they had done in site assembly might make it difficult to walk away from this. But then I figured the other huge development proposed by the railroad tracks would take the wind out of their sails. Glad to see that may not be the case. Hope this comes back with a better design so that everyone can get behind it.

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Re: Dinkytower - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby scottmann » June 16th, 2020, 9:47 am

This is now down to 6 stories, should probably take the "tower" part off Dinkytower:
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/download ... McDonald's

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Re: Dinkytower - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby Anondson » June 16th, 2020, 9:50 am

Well, 6 stories is kind of a dinky tower.

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Re: Dinky "tower" - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby Nathan » June 16th, 2020, 10:16 am

A significantly better looking project. The scale is humane, the materials of decent quality, pedestrian spaces and lots of retail. I'm very glad that previous monstrosity (and I'm a fan of brutalism šŸ˜‚) is a thing of the past.

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Re: Dinky "tower" - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby Tcmetro » June 16th, 2020, 1:18 pm

Annoying to see another six story project. The street engagement is pretty nice, though. Looking forward to this coming to fruition.

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Re: Dinky "tower" - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby alexschief » June 18th, 2020, 3:51 pm

I would've liked an actual tower, because that would've been the most intense land use.

But I prefer this version over the one that the CPC rejected. The design is better, even though it's one building, it successfully looks like three without being a Frankenstein. Adding the Subway lot is an additional win, because that lot is bad, and may have been more difficult to develop if the rejected plan had been approved. The ground flood amenities are as strong as the earlier version.

The lost height isn't a big deal, and it's more than paid off by the improvements listed above.

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Re: Dinky "tower" - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby blo442 » December 14th, 2020, 5:27 pm

Word on the street is the Dinkytown Mcdonald's closed its doors permanently today. RIP DrunkDonalds, gone but not forgotten.

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Re: Dinky "tower" - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby talindsay » December 15th, 2020, 1:48 pm

I assumed the closure was for construction. Any evidence that it's not reopening after the rebuild?

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Re: Dinky "tower" - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby nBode » December 16th, 2020, 11:43 am

It's expected to reopen in the new building.

https://mndaily.com/264556/news/dinkyto ... -business/

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Re: Dinky "tower" - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby twincitizen » May 27th, 2021, 8:01 am

Moving forward: https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... ce=twitter
CA Ventures spent nearly $24.9 million last month acquiring most of a block in Dinkytown where it plans a mixed-use redevelopment, according to state records made public this week.

The Chicago-based real estate company last year won city approvals to construct a seven-story building at the intersection of 15th Avenue Southeast and 4th Street Southeast. Plans call for 308 residential units and more than 27,000 square feet of commercial space.
1. The land acquisition costs on this project might be the highest per acre in city history(?) The site is right around 2 acres, so $12.5MM per acre, and that doesn't include the costs to demolish the numerous structures.

2. Dang, I did not realize the extent of restaurant/retail displacement this project would cause. While McD's is slated to return, Pagoda, Himalayan, Five Guys, Subway and Pizza Hut, as well as TCF Bank and the liquor store are all up in the air. McD's will probably ensure in their lease that Five Guys won't reopen in this project, and that wouldn't be atypical. And I assume that specific liquor store ownership group won't return, but certainly there's an opportunity in the Dinkytown market for a liquor store.

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Re: Dinky "tower" - McDonalds redevelopment

Postby COLSLAW5 » May 27th, 2021, 10:02 am

TCF bank is moving into the old gina and wills space across the street by starbucks apparently


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