North Loop Green - 350/360 N 5th St - 35 stories - 393'/418'

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby HKM » November 5th, 2021, 12:14 pm

By sheer coincidence, the Twins are replacing their scoreboard before the 2023 season. I'm gonna guess there's a 99% chance it significantly if not completely obstructs the view of the field from the new building. The entire project also begs the question of how the Pohlad family let a different developer acquire this property.

https://www.startribune.com/target-fiel ... 600078360/

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby mamundsen » November 5th, 2021, 3:05 pm

THANK YOU!

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby MNdible » November 5th, 2021, 3:32 pm

One bummer about this project is that I'd always thought there could be a cool opportunity to activate the backs of the N 3rd Avenue buildings here. In fact, I think some of the early Twinsville plans promoted this idea.

But the way this project turns a block long blank face to this alley is going to make sure this never happens.

It will be interesting to see if they promote/improve the pedestrian access from 3rd Ave to the new below-viaduct park space.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby gopherfan » November 8th, 2021, 11:45 am

By sheer coincidence, the Twins are replacing their scoreboard before the 2023 season. I'm gonna guess there's a 99% chance it significantly if not completely obstructs the view of the field from the new building.
Here's a rendering of the rooftop view looking towards Target Field, they make it look like a nice view!. I think they are just replacing the LED panels, I don't expect the size of the scoreboard to change. They would have to completely redo the structure holding up the scoreboard and it doesn't sound like that is the plan.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby contrast » November 19th, 2021, 2:11 pm

By sheer coincidence, the Twins are replacing their scoreboard before the 2023 season. I'm gonna guess there's a 99% chance it significantly if not completely obstructs the view of the field from the new building. The entire project also begs the question of how the Pohlad family let a different developer acquire this property.

https://www.startribune.com/target-fiel ... 600078360/
This is quite off topic, but did everyone see this quote at the end of the Strib article,
"There remains difficulty staffing the concession stands. Hoy said that Delaware North, the ballpark's concessions operator, has been busing workers from Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Louis for Twins' homestands. The concessionaire has been holding job fairs, offering $500 signing bonuses and benefits to try to entice workers."

Wow. Really interesting.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby VacantLuxuries » November 19th, 2021, 5:47 pm

I'm sure they've tried everything but raising wages and providing benefits.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby HKM » November 19th, 2021, 6:27 pm

By sheer coincidence, the Twins are replacing their scoreboard before the 2023 season. I'm gonna guess there's a 99% chance it significantly if not completely obstructs the view of the field from the new building. The entire project also begs the question of how the Pohlad family let a different developer acquire this property.

https://www.startribune.com/target-fiel ... 600078360/
This is quite off topic, but did everyone see this quote at the end of the Strib article,
"There remains difficulty staffing the concession stands. Hoy said that Delaware North, the ballpark's concessions operator, has been busing workers from Chicago, Milwaukee and St. Louis for Twins' homestands. The concessionaire has been holding job fairs, offering $500 signing bonuses and benefits to try to entice workers."

Wow. Really interesting.
That's nothing new. Here's an article from April 2016 about it which they caught enough flack for that they stopped it but clearly it's something they'd rather do than just make the job more appealing.

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2016/04/1 ... rget-field

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby alexschief » December 6th, 2021, 9:31 am

Heavy dirt moving on this site, with some vertical beams (not a future part of the building, something construction related) going up along the edge of 5th Street. This project is going to completely transform this entire area.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby Bakken2016 » December 8th, 2021, 8:56 am

I live like 2 blocks from this project, I am very excited to see it go up!

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby RedDutch » December 8th, 2021, 3:17 pm

That might be the largest parking lot downtown going bye bye! Now we need to get rid of the one across from the Loon!

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby alexschief » December 8th, 2021, 3:29 pm

Per the CPC packet, the project will have 532 car parking spaces (for 339k office square feet, 20.9k commercial square feet, 356 housing units, and 96 hotel units). The recently departed lot had 351 car parking spaces. So this project will add 181 parking spaces to downtown, but obviously add a great deal more relative activity.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby BoredAgain » December 13th, 2021, 11:17 am

Per the CPC packet, the project will have 532 car parking spaces (for 339k office square feet, 20.9k commercial square feet, 356 housing units, and 96 hotel units). The recently departed lot had 351 car parking spaces. So this project will add 181 parking spaces to downtown, but obviously add a great deal more relative activity.
That is the space in the building. The parking will also serve nearby buildings that had people parking in the old lot.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby twincitizen » December 16th, 2021, 4:06 pm

By sheer coincidence, the Twins are replacing their scoreboard before the 2023 season. I'm gonna guess there's a 99% chance it significantly if not completely obstructs the view of the field from the new building.
Here's a rendering of the rooftop view looking towards Target Field, they make it look like a nice view!. I think they are just replacing the LED panels, I don't expect the size of the scoreboard to change. They would have to completely redo the structure holding up the scoreboard and it doesn't sound like that is the plan.
Confirmed in a Strib article today, it is a full replacement of the scoreboard. The new screen will be the same height as the current one, but significantly wider by taking up the space currently occupied by static ads for Best Buy, Treasure Island, etc. It doesn't sound like that would impact views from off-site much, if at all.

"Details aren't yet final but Twins expect the main video display to increase to nearly 57-feet high and 178 feet wide, capturing what is now adjacent static advertising. The current board is the same height but only 101 feet wide. The team says the new board will be in place for the 2023 season, is 76 percent larger and will feature "life-like quality of HDR imaging."

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby mamundsen » December 16th, 2021, 8:20 pm

2023 season? I thought this was for next year 2022.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby bubzki2 » December 17th, 2021, 9:07 am

Now with more CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby MNdible » December 17th, 2021, 3:00 pm

Need more pixels to effectively render this:

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby Minneboy » March 14th, 2022, 9:50 pm

Well I'm sure glad this is now moving forward very nicely.

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby mamundsen » April 6th, 2022, 10:09 pm

Cranes are up for this. Should be fun to watch while at a Twins game.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/millerstrib/status/ ... CG7EQ1Dm5g[/tweet]

(Sorry, what do I have wrong in the code?)

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Re: North Loop Green - Hines - 350 N 5th St(?) - 35 stories - 393'/418'

Postby MattW » April 7th, 2022, 7:52 am

Cranes are up for this. Should be fun to watch while at a Twins game.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/millerstrib/status/ ... CG7EQ1Dm5g[/tweet]

(Sorry, what do I have wrong in the code?)
With the how the cranes align with the foul pole in that picture, it looks like they're inside the stadium! :lol:

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