Saint Paul - General Topics

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The Downtown Saint Paul Lunds & Byerlys will be closing at the end of March: https://www.twincities.com/2025/03/07/d ... -march-26/
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James Crockarell keeps sapping Downtown Saint Paul's vitality, even from beyond the grave.
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I work down here and yeah, it feels quite ominous to have an entire city block go dark essentially overnight. And there's really no source of help on the horizon: the Madison Equities properties continue to tank, any new investment at Central Station or the river is years away, the State has vacated their presence in the core, lost the grocery store, smaller companies moving out, housing conversions need their lease-up period (and honestly, what's the draw for folks to live down here these days)...

Hopefully between Ecolab, Securian, the museums, and Xcel Center there's enough of a base to sustain downtown til whatever comes next...but it's hard not to feel pretty damned pessimistic these days.
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Madison Equities parking ramp at 6th & Wall was just condemned as well.
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nate wrote: March 12th, 2025, 8:01 am Hopefully between Ecolab, Securian, the museums, and Xcel Center there's enough of a base to sustain downtown til whatever comes next...but it's hard not to feel pretty damned pessimistic these days.
Unscientific sample size of two, but the hockey fans I know are hoping a new Wolves/Lynx stadium lures the Wild over to Minneapolis. Considering updates for Xcel are in the long, perennial queue of Saint Paul projects hoping for state funding, would it be completely unexpected if that happened?
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I'd be awfully surprised if that happened. St. Paul historically gets more than its fair share of state largesse for projects like this, and especially now with their downtown suffering, I just can't see the legislature supporting a Wild move.

I do think it would be great if our mid-sized metro wasn't trying to support two competing arenas when much larger metros have NBA and NHL teams sharing a venue, but I think this bit of the Twin Cities rivalry is unavoidable.
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seanrichardryan wrote: March 12th, 2025, 11:46 am Madison Equities parking ramp at 6th & Wall was just condemned as well.
If I were the city/county, I would be doing everything in my power to dispossess Madison Equities of all their downtown properties.

They clearly don't care and are happy to see the properties decline until they're condemned. Total slumlords.
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thespeedmccool wrote: March 12th, 2025, 4:34 pm
seanrichardryan wrote: March 12th, 2025, 11:46 am Madison Equities parking ramp at 6th & Wall was just condemned as well.
If I were the city/county, I would be doing everything in my power to dispossess Madison Equities of all their downtown properties.

They clearly don't care and are happy to see the properties decline until they're condemned. Total slumlords.
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