Northeast - General Topics

[MNdible]

This little project backed up to the railroad tracks near Broadway and Central is going in front of the planning commission. In spite of the plans suggesting that it might be six floors tall, it looks like it's really only four.

https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/download ... evised.pdf

My question for anybody who knows more about this than I do is how are they getting away without building an elevator?

[Silophant]

I wonder if only a certain percentage of the actual units need to be ADA accessible, as long as all the common spaces are? Not having an underground garage helps, of course, but I also notice that the shared patio space is on the ground level instead of being part of a top floor setback like I'm more used to seeing in proposals like this.

[twincitizen]

Why does a project of this scale need an electrical transformer? Why in the front yard, right up by the sidewalk (and adjacent home's driveway)? You don't really see that with older apartment buildings of this scale.

Great project, but I wish they were buying the triangle-shaped property to the south too (726 Tyler). That's gonna be tougher to develop on its own and probably remains a shoddy SFH until someone wants to build a 2-4 unit on it.

[Silophant]

Good question. Most newer apartment buildings need three-phase service for the elevator, but that's obviously not the case here. My guess that as an all-electric building, the projected load is enough to trigger the need for a three-phase service even without an elevator (or EV charging, since there's no parking), and they opted to bore in a new underground primary instead of rebuilding the existing single-phase tap along the railroad tracks. Xcel is trying to get away from back-lot overhead lines like that that can't be accessed from public right-of-way.

[MNdible]

I wonder if only a certain percentage of the actual units need to be ADA accessible, as long as all the common spaces are? Not having an underground garage helps, of course, but I also notice that the shared patio space is on the ground level instead of being part of a top floor setback like I'm more used to seeing in proposals like this.

I just hope that nobody living on the fourth floor twists an ankle and has to use crutches. Or has their elderly parents try to visit them. Or, you know, has to move into the building.

[MNdible]

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[Wezle]

New proposal in in next Monday's Planning Commission for a 5-story 89 unit apartment building at 931 Marshall St across from the Graco campus.

https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/Download ... Report.pdf

[Silophant]

Looks like it's a resubmission of a proposal that was approved back in late 2022 but had the entitlements expire. Hope they can get it off the ground this time.

[Wezle]

Makes me excited to see proposals popping up at all in front of the Planning Commission. Feels like it's been months since there has been anything noteworthy in their meeting agendas. Next Monday's meeting has 3 apartment proposals totaling 177 units of housing.

Perhaps this is overly optimistic, but maybe we've turned the corner and will be back to a steady stream of housing proposals/builds again.

[rhettcarlson]

Good spot. The micro-market of Broadway/Marshall in NE is really solid. The Julia, Frances & Lucille apartments all seeing $3+ psf rents!

[Silophant]

Makes me optimistic that we'll see an actual redevelopment of the Graco campus, assuming it can stay out of the hands of data center developers.

[daveybabymsp]

Makes me optimistic that we'll see an actual redevelopment of the Graco campus, assuming it can stay out of the hands of data center developers.

City Council should preemptively rezone the Graco site to not allow data centers. It would be super unpopular if that huge riverfront site became a data center.

[Silophant]

Agreed, but I suspect they don't want to actually rezone the site away from Production and Processing until there's an actual proposal for it. Hard to imagine who it would be here in 2026, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if someone came in to use at least some of the existing site for manufacturing of some sort.