I think we may have found the dunce.
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In some ways I think this comment points to part of the problem with our approach to the mall. We seem to be on a path to completely redesign it every generation. Most architecture and design seems to go through an evolution of perception. At first it is cool and new. Then after a few years the freshness of the new wears off and it then seems dated. It remains dated for a few decades until it becomes timeless and beloved. In 20 years the new mall will seem as dated as the current one. If Rybak et al. are such deep thinkers why can't they see this? I think it is obvious to anyone who pays attention to the evolution of style and taste.
As for the mall, pretty much any of these teams could've improved Nicollet's current state. Hopefully in 20 years it won't look dated like the current 90s pastiche.The Corner team will do what they can within their budget.
The (mostly) pompous and uniformed people that comment on the Strib website make me weap for the future. Perhaps this NYC firm is just better than those others that submitted a proposal.God. The comments on the Star Tribune story are almost exclusively either:
• What, they couldn't find a local firm to do this?
• If any state money goes to this project I will be mad!
It's almost like it's organized. Sometimes I think it might be.
Anyway, the guy who won was on MPR earlier today and pretty much stressed that the concepts were likely not at all what the final project would look like.
Good to know. Pronunciation is still off by a mile. Two ls in French are pronounced with a y sound and the t is still silent. Anyways at least no one's being Minnesota passive aggressive.I think we may have found the dunce. Jean Nicolet and Joseph Nicollet were different people that explored different regions more than 150 years apart.Heh. I didn't think that through. I just meant, it's a design aimed at tourists. Midwestern tourists. No offense meant to Wisconsin or the great Nicolet.As a Wisconite turned Minnesotan I find this highly ironic. A man's name is Nicolet. Some dunce west of the Mississippi decides to add an l and start pronouncing the t. These happen to be the same people who pronounce New Prague and Mille Lacs with utter disregard for pronunciation norms.
You're right that pronunciation is off, but in this case the double ell is not a wye sound - it's very rare to hear a wye sound on double ell in French, that's primarily a Spanish pronunciation. In French the name Nicollet would be pronounced NEE-kohl-lay.Good to know. Pronunciation is still off by a mile. Two ls in French are pronounced with a y sound and the t is still silent. Anyways at least no one's being Minnesota passive aggressive.
Just another example of how the public school system has failed. If people with a "good" GPA cannot differentiate seminal voyageurs, then obviously the system is beyond broken. This anecdote proves that fact.I think we may have found the dunce. Jean Nicolet and Joseph Nicollet were different people that explored different regions more than 150 years apart.
Preach it, mon frère.Just another example of how the public school system has failed. If people with a "good" GPA cannot differentiate seminal voyageurs, then obviously the system is beyond broken. This anecdote proves that fact.
You're a good guy, mon frère. That means “brother” in French. I don't know why I know that. I took four years of Spanish!Preach it, mon frère.
You're a good guy, mon frère. That means “brother” in French. I don't know why I know that. I took four years of Spanish!
It's crazy how much that's sticking in my head. I loved that space—the improved bus stop, the food truck plaza, the removal of a chunk of the fortress...I can't shake that dream. Alas.I really was inspired by the mid street open space created by taking away bits of city center.
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