I did too, I just figured I could get away with parking there for 15 minutes...guess not!I looked closely at the signs. I always park in either the mall or on the southern part of Hennepin
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I did too, I just figured I could get away with parking there for 15 minutes...guess not!I looked closely at the signs. I always park in either the mall or on the southern part of Hennepin
Residents pay $25/year for parking permits, and then a massive $10/year for visitor permits. That's not covering the costs, and it's clearly in many areas not enough to make residents consider whether they should seek out better options. Those options would include going carless, or sharing off-street space better.why shouldn't residents be able to park on their own block, when there is plenty of district parking? Is that so unreasonable? It's one of the densest areas in the city to begin with, and residents pay annually for permits and guest permits. Why should outsiders get free parking there at the expense of locals? Why shouldn't residents be allowed to manage their limited parking availability?
So the point of parking permits should be to make the residents consider going carless. Cool. Got it.Residents pay $25/year for parking permits, and then a massive $10/year for visitor permits. That's not covering the costs, and it's clearly in many areas not enough to make residents consider whether they should seek out better options. Those options would include going carless, or sharing off-street space better.why shouldn't residents be able to park on their own block, when there is plenty of district parking? Is that so unreasonable? It's one of the densest areas in the city to begin with, and residents pay annually for permits and guest permits. Why should outsiders get free parking there at the expense of locals? Why shouldn't residents be allowed to manage their limited parking availability?
When I lived in a foreign city with similar densities to Uptown permits cost $500/year (actually $250/6 mo). That was the tipping point into going carless and renting when we needed one.
I don't think that's the purpose (clearly it isn't at the moment).So the point of parking permits should be to make the residents consider going carless. Cool. Got it.
I have to imagine that most people renting today do just that. I don't know anyone who has signed a lease without checking out the parking situation. I've even driven around with friends who were looking into Uptown or Loring Park apartments to check out differences in the morning, midday, and evening parking situation.I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that people consider their parking needs before choosing a place to live.
Wanting parking doesn't make people entitled. Demanding free parking or so-far-below-market-value-it-might-as-well-be-free parking in one of the few places in the metro you can almost call urban with decent transit does.Exiled_antipodean and Twin Citizen, You're right about permit costs. I have come around on that. The city could and should charge a lot more for parking permits-- they could make additional revenue and plow that right back into street improvements, and maybe a few people will decide to go carless. I live in a critical parking area, and I know I would pay a lot lot more money for my permit if I had to.
But I stand by my response to ECTransplant's characterization of everyone as "entitled" for wanting parking in a very car-dependent metro area.
I don't know. Most of these folks in these areas are renters. They move in. They pay the fee. They get the permit. That was my experience. I'm not sure who the straw man is doing all this demanding. It's on the city to charge more if they want to charge more, period.Wanting parking doesn't make people entitled. Demanding free parking or so-far-below-market-value-it-might-as-well-be-free parking in one of the few places in the metro you can almost call urban with decent transit does.Exiled_antipodean and Twin Citizen, You're right about permit costs. I have come around on that. The city could and should charge a lot more for parking permits-- they could make additional revenue and plow that right back into street improvements, and maybe a few people will decide to go carless. I live in a critical parking area, and I know I would pay a lot lot more money for my permit if I had to.
But I stand by my response to ECTransplant's characterization of everyone as "entitled" for wanting parking in a very car-dependent metro area.
I mean, it's a pretty easy sell: Ensure you have parking in front of your building, or at least on the same block.The people who made a fuss to get the permit parking established in the first place
Yeah. I think the only reason it hasn't taken over the Wedge yet is because renters rarely answer their door.I mean, it's a pretty easy sellThe people who made a fuss to get the permit parking established in the first place
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