Nicollet Mall
-
- IDS Center
- Posts: 4371
- Joined: February 8th, 2014, 11:33 pm
- Location: Marcy-Holmes
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
I'm coming!
-
- Moderator
- Posts: 6384
- Joined: May 31st, 2012, 7:27 pm
- Location: Standish-Ericsson
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
I am loving the branding/typography/wayfinding they came up with. James Corner might say it's bloody brilliant
- seamonster
- Nicollet Mall
- Posts: 150
- Joined: May 14th, 2015, 1:12 pm
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
No, he would say it's "elegant."
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
The StarTribune mentioned updated renderings released Tuesday night, anyone have a link or pictures of them?
- trkaiser
- Landmark Center
- Posts: 261
- Joined: June 1st, 2012, 9:05 am
- Location: Northeast Minneapolis
- Contact:
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
You can see them here: http://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/05/19/nicollet-mall
-
- Block E
- Posts: 21
- Joined: October 30th, 2013, 3:55 pm
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
Looks as though they've scrapped the set aggregate surfacing material. I am glad. The test patch at Hennepin and 4th is a mess. Scraped up and dusty and crumbling. Not tough enough for our winters.
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
The biggest improvement will be if the pavement remains durable over time. There are some nice elements to the new design, but I'm skeptical the increased seating along the Mall will last long. The current public seating spaces are now the domain of the homeless , panhandlers, people living in shelters, thug wannabes, etc. That will only increase with more available seating. That's the demographic reality that's been glossed over in this renovation process, which I guess is for fear of being politically incorrect to acknowledge it.
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
I wonder how those street pavers will feel on a bike. Most brick streets are awful (partly because they're not very well maintained).
-
- Target Field
- Posts: 593
- Joined: July 10th, 2012, 6:37 pm
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
That's just not true, John. When I walk down Nicollet Mall I see people from every walk of life using the seating. People in suits sitting right next to homeless people. Is there visible poverty downtown? Yes. Should we really purposely make things uncomfortable for poor people so we don't have to see them downtown? My opinion is no, we shouldn't.The current public seating spaces are now the domain of the homeless , panhandlers, people living in shelters, thug wannabes, etc. That will only increase with more available seating. That's the demographic reality that's been glossed over in this renovation process, which I guess is for fear of being politically incorrect to acknowledge it.
This is public space, which should be welcoming to the public. And even open to those citizens who you'd disparage as thug wannabes.
-
- Moderator
- Posts: 6384
- Joined: May 31st, 2012, 7:27 pm
- Location: Standish-Ericsson
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
Some interesting points about the assessments: http://www.minnpost.com/politics-policy ... lot-questi
They are assessing based off of 2013 property values, which means that properties like Nic on 5th, the Wells Fargo twins, etc. are being assessed as parking lots. It also sounds like they very easily could have used 2014 property values, given that the whole assessment plan was only made public recently. Even though they were likely working on the formula, crunching numbers, etc. throughout 2014 (before 2014 values were available), they theoretically could have just subbed in the new numbers as soon as they were ready.
They are assessing based off of 2013 property values, which means that properties like Nic on 5th, the Wells Fargo twins, etc. are being assessed as parking lots. It also sounds like they very easily could have used 2014 property values, given that the whole assessment plan was only made public recently. Even though they were likely working on the formula, crunching numbers, etc. throughout 2014 (before 2014 values were available), they theoretically could have just subbed in the new numbers as soon as they were ready.
-
- Capella Tower
- Posts: 2625
- Joined: September 16th, 2012, 4:31 pm
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
Maybe they plan on subbing in numbers once the properties are built or fully assessed and crediting back a certain amount to the over-charged parcels over time? That would seem fair, though odd they didn't just go with a 'best-guess' knowing what type of structures were going in at the time of the plan.
-
- Wells Fargo Center
- Posts: 1331
- Joined: June 8th, 2012, 1:39 pm
- Location: George Floyd Square
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
Does anyone know if there's going to be a curb cut to access the Loring Greenway from Nicollet Mall by bike? That connection is pretty frustrating right now.
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
Are bikes allowed on the greenway? I never knew for sure so I always use the street.Does anyone know if there's going to be a curb cut to access the Loring Greenway from Nicollet Mall by bike? That connection is pretty frustrating right now.
-
- IDS Center
- Posts: 4371
- Joined: February 8th, 2014, 11:33 pm
- Location: Marcy-Holmes
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
http://nicollet.wpengine.com/construction
http://nicollet.wpengine.com/wp-content ... opment.pdf
Here. 1st link is a sign up for automatic emails for construction updates. 2nd link is the full presentation from last night
http://nicollet.wpengine.com/wp-content ... opment.pdf
Here. 1st link is a sign up for automatic emails for construction updates. 2nd link is the full presentation from last night
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
So, the guy on page 15 of the slideshow, isn't he on the verge of getting hit by a bus?http://nicollet.wpengine.com/construction
http://nicollet.wpengine.com/wp-content ... opment.pdf
Here. 1st link is a sign up for automatic emails for construction updates. 2nd link is the full presentation from last night
edit: Also not sure why the "Reading Room" is on the opposite side of downtown from the library (and the "Theater" from the Orchestra and, for that matter, most of the theaters on Hennepin).
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
It looks like there's no curb that separates the road from the sidewalk, so there's no need for a curb cut.Does anyone know if there's going to be a curb cut to access the Loring Greenway from Nicollet Mall by bike? That connection is pretty frustrating right now.
-
- IDS Center
- Posts: 4371
- Joined: February 8th, 2014, 11:33 pm
- Location: Marcy-Holmes
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
It's a 4 inch curb but it might be a soft curb
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
I think they said a 4" curb with a 45 degree slope. So, much better than what exists today, though an actual curb cut would still be nice.
Joey Senkyr
[email protected]
[email protected]
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
Personally, I don't like the tall lamp posts and the proposed Light Walk in front of the IDS.
Why can't we hand lighting between the buildings? There's no reason to add 50-foot light poles every 30 feet. It looks hideous. I know know they are trying to be creative and provide uniform lighting.
The Light Walk in front of the IDS will obstruct one of the most impressive views in the city. I've loved here for 15 years, but I still find myself looking straight up at the IDS every time I exit the building onto the mall. Why cover that up with a useless 'feature" ?
Why can't we hand lighting between the buildings? There's no reason to add 50-foot light poles every 30 feet. It looks hideous. I know know they are trying to be creative and provide uniform lighting.
The Light Walk in front of the IDS will obstruct one of the most impressive views in the city. I've loved here for 15 years, but I still find myself looking straight up at the IDS every time I exit the building onto the mall. Why cover that up with a useless 'feature" ?
Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project
Well, the truth is they will always be panhandlers, homeless, etc as part of the social dynamics of Nicollet Mall. That's not the issue. The point is to maintain a balance where no group dominates the public realm of the Mall. That what keeps the space democratic and safe. I suspect the increase in public seating on Nicolet Mall will create more public safety concerns, especially in the summer. Sorry, but that's the reality of life in the big city in contemporary times.That's just not true, John. When I walk down Nicollet Mall I see people from every walk of life using the seating. People in suits sitting right next to homeless people. Is there visible poverty downtown? Yes. Should we really purposely make things uncomfortable for poor people so we don't have to see them downtown? My opinion is no, we shouldn't.
This is public space, which should be welcoming to the public. And even open to those citizens who you'd disparage as thug wannabes.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests