urbanMSP

This property in right next to the stadium though, everyone wants to put something here because if it's a hotel then that makes ease of access for football fans and if it's an apartment then that opens up a world for people who want to be right next to the action. It's similar to a house on the lake, it has a stunning view of the lake and is right next to the best sand bar in the chain but there's one a few blocks down for cheaper but it's not near the best sand bar

True, except that the Vikings, the city and Ryan are actually creating "the lake" and "the view" so they could collaboratively orient the development as a whole to have more options for developments with views around the stadium and near the park. But I suppose it's a pipe dream to ask these folks to work together .

Who would use the studio? This doesn't sound like the type of space a major tv network would move into, FSN just got new space, and the NFL has national pregame coverage. Local Vikings coverage is really pretty limited. My guess is that the studio space would probably be pretty small, maybe for Vikings.com and special event coverage. Something more ambitious would be welcome, though.

I look at the studio as window dressing for press releases and will have a very small chance of ever really being apart of the project. Say your are having a studio sounds good to the general public, but like most of us know there really is no one that will really have any need for it. They will have their own facilities so don't need them in an area that really will not do them any good.

With the Wilfs now jumping into this months after the deadline. What are the chances this moves forward? Legally this seems pretty muddy. A hotel/apt tower Ryan said wouldn't work because the Wilfs said they wont change the parking garage design. Aside from a higher bid amount do the Wilfs really have any cards? One more thing do any of you think this will force Ryan into designing a grand project? Provided the stadium authority/WIlfs and Ryan cooperate in the garage design.

I am not sure the proper legal terms, but this whole Wilf proposal reeks to high heaven.

Regarding the broadcast space:

The broadcast studio would overlook the stadium and park and be used by the Vikings, FOX, CBS or for the 2018 Super Bowl, said Lester Bagley, the Vikings' spokesman and stadium development executive.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/b ... -ryan.html

Sounds pretty overstated.

The Viking proposal is an amateurish rinky dink idea for what should be a high profile building next to a world class stadium. Ryan has bungled up their proposal as well. I know this won't happen , but really this whole air rights development should go back to square one and the city should allow enough time for other developers to compete and come up with something more substantial/iconic that will increase the tax base, help pay for the park, and given Minneapolis something to be proud of.

^^^^Well said. Hard to believe where this project is currently at, why the Wilfs are even involved and how Ryan was able to mess this up to the degree they did.

Given recent history, I have no problem with favoring Ryan over the Vikings in this case.

^^^ This. It will be interesting to see what the city says, if anything, about the Peterson issue and the team's response to it.

i think it hasn't helped that the senior ryan exec who was instrumental in getting many complex projects through the city approvals process now offices in phoenix.

I guess I don't understand the hoopla about residents leaving on game day? Would someone mind explaining that and if it's even a valid concern? It just seems silly to me.

I guess I don't understand the hoopla about residents leaving on game day? Would someone mind explaining that and if it's even a valid concern? It just seems silly to me.

Presumably it would temporarily halt traffic coming into or out of the ramp if the police who are guiding traffic had to stop one for the other?

This seems like such a non issue. If I decided to live in such a place, there's no way I'd try to drive around the area before or after a Vikings game. It's asking for major, major headaches.

It's definitely a non-issue. 200ish residents in the building. How many of them would be dumb enough to attempt to drive during Vikings ingress/egress? I'm glad Jacob Frey publicly called out the Vikings/MSFA for being so overly concerned with something so trivial.

I'm just glad to see that Ryan seems to still be the favorite for this parcel. I hopeful that their updated design with Magellan will be really awesome.

Especially a non-issue given there are so few home games a year in the NFL.

^^^ This. It will be interesting to see what the city says, if anything, about the Peterson issue and the team's response to it.

Why would Peterson have anything to do with this? That would not even make any sense.

^^^ This. It will be interesting to see what the city says, if anything, about the Peterson issue and the team's response to it.

Why would Peterson have anything to do with this? That would not even make any sense.

PR.