urbanMSP

Gonna be crucial in St Paul's bid to get the next vikings stadium though. Playing the loooong game.

Don't give them any ideas.

If I could go back in time and change it, this would've been the Silver Line since I can see the logic with having the Gold and Silver Lines both being in Downtown St. Paul, serving the east metro, and running mostly on dedicated bus lanes. Also reserve purple for a light rail route, likely Riverview, so people would be riding the Purple Train (too bad it wouldn't go near Paisley Park).

While all of their arguments are dumb (and almost certainly rooted in bigotry/fear), IMHO it would be absolutely fine if this BRT service ended at the Maplewood Mall P&R, with slightly less frequent local service extending into White Bear Lake. I’m very curious what percentage of the total construction costs are made up by the segment beyond Maplewood Mall. I just don’t see it as being worth it.

While all of their arguments are dumb (and almost certainly rooted in bigotry/fear), IMHO it would be absolutely fine if this BRT service ended at the Maplewood Mall P&R, with slightly less frequent local service extending into White Bear Lake. I’m very curious what percentage of the total construction costs are made up by the segment beyond Maplewood Mall. I just don’t see it as being worth it.

IMO Silver Line would be a better fit, with the 2 east metro BRTs then being Gold and Silver. Plus it would reserve Purple for Riverview. But mostly I’m annoyed at the Purple thing because a Ramsey County Commissioner long ago earmarked Purple for this line specifically because it gave them Purple & Gold, which they stated they wanted because it is the Vikings’ colors (which is moronic reasoning since neither line goes to the Vikings stadium).

IMO Silver Line would be a better fit, with the 2 east metro BRTs then being Gold and Silver. Plus it would reserve Purple for Riverview. But mostly I’m annoyed at the Purple thing because a Ramsey County Commissioner long ago earmarked Purple for this line specifically because it gave them Purple & Gold, which they stated they wanted because it is the Vikings’ colors (which is moronic reasoning since neither line goes to the Vikings stadium).

I feel like river view should be the red line .. even if it’s a 2 seat line .. I remember the red line was to be expanded to have downtown(s) service so river view is just that.

Also I am now 1000% on board on relabeling Green line to Gold line and Blue line to Purple line!

The fact that we didn’t realize this ages ago seems like they were out of touch with our community.

Same thing with the aBRT labeling

Just call them by the dominate roadway they service Snelling METRO line, Hennepin METRO line, Chicago METRO line Nicollet METRO line etc. ..we all learned the roads why make us learn letters now too when we can have a name that fits the community better?

We shouldn’t build a transit network that is dedicated to visitors, but a transit network that is for the community that visitors can also easily understand.

The WBL routing is so disappointing and useless the BRT line should just end at the Maplewood Mall Park & Ride, with service to Downtown WBL provided by a separate local bus route that can actually serve useful stops near downtown.