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Internet historians, take note: February 27th, 2013 was the day that Edina was referred to as being "dirt poor".We wonder why our cities are dirt poor and can't afford to maintain our streets and infrastructure.
I was referring to the general case, not specifically Edina.. That the most productive area in one of our richest cities would consider this shows the lunacy of the idea.Internet historians, take note: February 27th, 2013 was the day that Edina was referred to as being "dirt poor".We wonder why our cities are dirt poor and can't afford to maintain our streets and infrastructure.
I tend to agree with you, but Edina has to be realistic: 50th & France, for all its successes, will never be a place most of its clientelle walk to. At least, there isn't enough of a population within walking distance to support the high-end stores that exist there now. There HAS to be parking, and Edina is solving that problem.I was referring to the general case, not specifically Edina.. That the most productive area in one of our richest cities would consider this shows the lunacy of the idea.Internet historians, take note: February 27th, 2013 was the day that Edina was referred to as being "dirt poor".We wonder why our cities are dirt poor and can't afford to maintain our streets and infrastructure.
I just wonder how people and places existed before cars... or how they get along in so many European cities and towns with high-end retail/dining... Also nevermind hopping on a bike or one of the many buses that go through that area. Furthermore, I'm not against cars outright or even parking (as long as its ramps or underground). It just shouldn't be the focus and definitely should not be on the local government to further subsidize parking at the expense of street life and possible commercial space..I tend to agree with you, but Edina has to be realistic: 50th & France, for all its successes, will never be a place most of its clientelle walk to. At least, there isn't enough of a population within walking distance to support the high-end stores that exist there now. There HAS to be parking, and Edina is solving that problem.
At least it's a ramp, and not a surface lot, huh?!
Maybe they could ease everyone's concerns and surround the parking ramp with condos/apartments, like those ramps near the Guthrie downtown? That seems like a good compromise that keeps the integrity of the area intact and is also completely feasible (money-wise).I just wonder how people and places existed before cars... or how they get along in so many European cities and towns with high-end retail/dining... Also nevermind hopping on a bike or one of the many buses that go through that area. Furthermore, I'm not against cars outright or even parking (as long as its ramps or underground). It just shouldn't be the focus and definitely should not be on the local government to further subsidize parking at the expense of street life and possible commercial space..I tend to agree with you, but Edina has to be realistic: 50th & France, for all its successes, will never be a place most of its clientelle walk to. At least, there isn't enough of a population within walking distance to support the high-end stores that exist there now. There HAS to be parking, and Edina is solving that problem.
At least it's a ramp, and not a surface lot, huh?!
Would totally be behind that. I guarantee there's demand for 20s-30s year olds to live in this area. Maybe even some seniors. Heck, they're building a senior apartment building a couple blocks east. I don't care if there is parking. I just don't like a) surface lot parking (the devil), or b) free, city owned ramp parking in place of good urbanism, under the guise of reducing traffic.Maybe they could ease everyone's concerns and surround the parking ramp with condos/apartments, like those ramps near the Guthrie downtown? That seems like a good compromise that keeps the integrity of the area intact and is also completely feasible (money-wise).
Honestly I didn't know those ramps were even there, north of 50th. The only ramp I could support in this node is one that allows for the Lund's surface lot to get new development.
The ramps north of 50th (next to Walgreens) are not hidden at all, and I think that's what they were referring to. The ones behind the movie theater and Edina Grill are certainly better hidden.Honestly I didn't know those ramps were even there, north of 50th. The only ramp I could support in this node is one that allows for the Lund's surface lot to get new development.
The Edina parking ramps are nicely hid away from the main intersection. On is sandwiches between the store fronting France, the Ednia Theater, and Lunds. The other two are back off a block in the NW quadrant near the Walgreens. They don't sit out like many do.
If you are driving or walking along 50th and France you would not even know they are there. They do not show as part of the main business district. They are all set off away from the main though faresThe ramps north of 50th (next to Walgreens) are not hidden at all, and I think that's what they were referring to. The ones behind the movie theater and Edina Grill are certainly better hidden.Honestly I didn't know those ramps were even there, north of 50th. The only ramp I could support in this node is one that allows for the Lund's surface lot to get new development.
The Edina parking ramps are nicely hid away from the main intersection. On is sandwiches between the store fronting France, the Ednia Theater, and Lunds. The other two are back off a block in the NW quadrant near the Walgreens. They don't sit out like many do.