RBC Gateway & Four Seasons - 37 stories - 519'

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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby scottiem » December 13th, 2021, 4:53 pm

My personal preference on building design is for one strong design idea or concept to shine through, but this building just reads as incredibly vernacular to me. Doubly so if they go through with plastering that RBC logo on top, which some of the renderings had. At street level, it is totally clear this thing is a mashup of both materials and design styles. The good side of this imo is that every architecturally-prominent building needs a bland one nearby to use as a foil--I believe Wells Fargo, Capella, Carlyle, and a few other towers above a certain height will shine brighter as a result of the gateway tower. At street level, I'm especially struck by how well the abstract library design fits in now that it is not fully exposed to the North and East.

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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby Silophant » December 15th, 2021, 6:33 pm

Couldn't get a decent picture with the rain and fog, but the RBC sign went up today. It's maybe 15'x15', so it's pretty unobtrusive 500' up.
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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby scottiem » December 17th, 2021, 3:21 pm

Nothing says 'gateway to Minneapolis' like the royal bank of canada. Agreed that the signage it is small now that it is up, but no doubt they will light the sign to really make it pop. For me it cheapens the experience of the building and skyline. I thought Minneapolis had some sort of ban on this--I recall a dust up over signage related to the wells fargo towers on Portland.

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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby Bakken2016 » December 17th, 2021, 3:22 pm

Nothing says 'gateway to Minneapolis' like the royal bank of canada. Agreed that the signage it is small now that it is up, but no doubt they will light the sign to really make it pop. For me it cheapens the experience of the building and skyline. I thought Minneapolis had some sort of ban on this--I recall a dust up over signage related to the wells fargo towers on Portland.
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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby scottiem » December 17th, 2021, 3:58 pm

Must be a good developer then. They designed, sold, and built a building that looks exactly like a bottom line. The city got gooped on this one.

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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby John21 » December 17th, 2021, 6:44 pm

Yeah, I saw it today and it looks smaller than I thought it would. I'll take it if it moved the project forward.

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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby Silophant » December 22nd, 2021, 10:05 am

Didn't get a picture, but the crown lighting was on last night. Looked nice.
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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby dillonfried » December 23rd, 2021, 12:04 pm

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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby West Coast » December 30th, 2021, 9:20 pm

RBC Gateway - 12/30/2021 - Viewed from 3rd Floor of MIA and Washburn Fair Oaks Park

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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby MidwayLuke » January 7th, 2022, 1:05 am

3 things:

1) The lighting on the crown has been on for a couple weeks now, and I have to say it looks fantastic!

2) ..But, it's unfortunate that they didn't light the Washington(NE) side of the crown. It looks weird to me having that side dark. I assume the reason is that there is a balcony right below and whatever billionaire who will live there wouldn't want that

3) According to eyeball observation, it appears they turned down the brightness on the crown lighting within the last couple days. It looks much better this way. Before, it was easily the brightest tower downtown, and that felt wrong. Now it feels to be an appropriate brightness.

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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby uptownbro » February 11th, 2022, 10:42 am

Opens Monday to tenants. 4 seasons in June

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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby Bakken2016 » February 11th, 2022, 11:06 am

Opens Monday to tenants. 4 seasons in June
Heard that the skyway opens too, anyone know if the cafe and restaurant will be open? I fly back into MSP on Monday, might have to check it out on the way home on the Blue Line.

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Re: RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Postby uptownbro » February 11th, 2022, 11:08 am

Skyway as well will be open. I think those open when 4 season does this summer
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Re: RBC Gateway & Four Seasons - 37 stories - 519'

Postby twincitizen » February 17th, 2022, 12:40 pm

Forbes takes a look at the Four Seasons: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbestrav ... 5776884536

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Re: RBC Gateway & Four Seasons - 37 stories - 519'

Postby Bakken2016 » March 2nd, 2022, 10:16 am

So I was curious, Four Seasons Minneapolis is taking reservations for June. $525 a night for the standard room.

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Re: RBC Gateway & Four Seasons - 37 stories - 519'

Postby digdugsmug » March 2nd, 2022, 1:07 pm

If you push it out to late in the year the cheapest room can be had for $400

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Re: RBC Gateway & Four Seasons - 37 stories - 519'

Postby Bakken2016 » March 2nd, 2022, 1:51 pm

Like, how well will that do in this market? I kind of want to spend one night there to experience the building and hotel, but even $400 is pushing it.


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Re: RBC Gateway & Four Seasons - 37 stories - 519'

Postby Tyler » March 2nd, 2022, 2:44 pm

They've been running hotels in a lot of peer-ish cities for a while. st louis, denver, baltimore, seattle, etc. Not saying things are exactly the same here but this isn't an untested model.
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Re: RBC Gateway & Four Seasons - 37 stories - 519'

Postby HKM » March 2nd, 2022, 3:03 pm

Like, how well will that do in this market? I kind of want to spend one night there to experience the building and hotel, but even $400 is pushing it.
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Re: RBC Gateway & Four Seasons - 37 stories - 519'

Postby Nick » March 2nd, 2022, 5:17 pm

This might be a naive redneck-type comment, but since this proposal was announced I thought just having the hotel here might increase the number of people from the coasts bopping in for a North Loop-focused weekend? It's kind of a different category compared to a Marriott.
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