Nicollet Mall

[FISHMANPET]

How is St Thomas paying taxes. Wouldn't they be incorporated as a non-profit? It sounds the Basilica is also being assessed?

[grant1simons2]

What the hell? Are they saying that St. Thomas students would be paying for this? That's kind of eh when they charge the tuition that they do. Also $140,000? No way

[twincitizen]

Non-profits, churches, etc. DO pay street/utility/etc. special assessments. They do not pay regular property taxes.

[FISHMANPET]

Found a map of the assessment zones. These look completely reasonable to me: http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/b ... l?page=all


Red is paying 45% of the cost, yellow is 35%, green is 20%.

It seems like people in the red are basically in support of the assessment, but yellow and green are unhappy. And non profit properties are being assessed.

[grant1simons2]

WCCO, your property is dead space, pay your dues for killing part of the mall.

[twincitizen]

I'd be curious to see who/what the largest assessments in the Green zone are. And if the Ballpark Authority (Target Field) and City (Target Center) are contributing funds via those respective revenue sources, or if they are exempt. Also, I'd like to know what someone in a $100k studio condo at Centre Village is paying. $10? Less? Someone in a $1MM Grant Park condo/TH would be paying roughly 10x that amount.

Also, how cruel is it to our urbanist eyes that they included an underlying plat map showing the old grid intact beneath the Metrodome, Convention Center, HERC, bus garage, etc.? How dare thee!

[FISHMANPET]

I missed this guy's name but I like his attitude.

[5th Ave Guy]

I'm on the edge of the green zone and got billed $350 or so. Makes it a little bit more real when you actually get the bill for the project.

[MNdible]

I assume that since it's an assessment, it could be financed like other assessments are through the property taxes?

[MinnMonkey]

I assume that since it's an assessment, it could be financed like other assessments are through the property taxes?

The proposal I received said any amount over $150 could be spread out over 20 years (I think it was 20 years).

[David Greene]

But a $100-150 one time payment for living on/near Nicollet Mall and probably use it frequently seems not bad at all. Again, I say this as someone who doesn't have to pay it, but... not too bad! Basically like a year's worth of Netflix or Amazon Prime.

Yeah, that's nothing. We got assessed thousands for sidewalk work.

I shed no tears for a $200 assessment.

[Wedgeguy]

Did this last Mall redo even last 20 years??

[HiawathaGuy]

Did this last Mall redo even last 20 years??

Closer to 30 years - it was last redone in the late 80s.

[MNdible]

It's hard to find actual dates for the last redesign, but most references point to the late 1980's. So, it will have lasted approximately 30 years. In a perfect world, you'd want it to last longer than that, but given our climate and the wear-and-tear that the Mall takes, that's probably a pretty good lifespan.

[grant1simons2]

As technology for materials gets better and stronger lets hope that increases. The stuff they they're using as the new sidewalk surface looks pretty engineered (it doesn't just look like a concrete slab).

[HiawathaGuy]

The stuff they they're using as the new sidewalk surface looks pretty engineered (it doesn't just look like a concrete slab).

Or worse, granite slabs with mortar! Allowing water to seep beneath the slabs, freezing and thawing, "popping" them up and causing issue.

[grant1simons2]

I should clarify. The material they'll be using is a resin bonded aggregate. Currently looking at how it does in snow, ice and cold.

[amiller92]

Speaking as a Mpls resident (non downtown) who's paying approximately 5 dollars through my state income tax ($25MM/5MM ppl in MN) and maybe another 5 dollars through city property taxes (for the $3.5MM(?) city budgeted portion), I'm getting a great deal.

But a $100-150 one time payment for living on/near Nicollet Mall and probably use it frequently seems not bad at all. Again, I say this as someone who doesn't have to pay it, but... not too bad! Basically like a year's worth of Netflix or Amazon Prime.

Mine is rather more than that. And I'm paying to redo Lasalle this year too.

[grant1simons2]

Nicollet Mall re-design meeting for May 19th

http://nicollet.wpengine.com/wp-content ... w-Logo.pdf

[twincitizen]

Meeting tonight y'all! Be there!