Alatus Residential Project - 228 South 12th Street (32 stories - ~348'/405')

[Oreos&Milk]

wow, never seen sombody record themselves using Google maps as a "tour" lol... You have thoroughly entertained me today. For that I am rather pleased. ...Next time consider including a voice over as well!

[Anondson]

Apple Maps Flyover to be specific with screen recording turned on. I’m going to try a flyover tour from the Calhoun Towers and maybe 200 Central after.

Don’t know if anyone was entertained by then like I was but I had to share.

I don’t have a great mic but I think I can add a voiceover...

[Silophant]

Alatus and ESG are presenting an update on this project to the DMNA LUC tonight.

Agenda.

[alatusllc]

Question: How do readers feel about the arrival court that we have designed from 12th - it is ingress only? Aesthetics, design, inter-activity with uses. Looking for feedback from a resident perspective and a pedestrian/bicyle/automobile/car-sharing/retail use/etc. experience.

[SurlyLHT]

Readers might want to use pages 19, 21, 23 of the packet below for reference:

http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/www/gro ... 208250.pdf

[BikesOnFilm]

I think you could accomplish the same thing with a ride share "station" where the ten guest spaces are along the alleyway without needing to sacrifice the street frontage along 12th. When you look at the arrival court in the plans directly next to the 5000 square foot retail parcel, it's kind of silly to use that much front facing space when the back alley could perform the exact same function.

This is especially true if it's just ingress - since any cars that come in will have to use the back way out anyway.

[BikesOnFilm]

I did a crude hack of the plans as they exist - By only taking out 3 guest parking spaces, there's now additional retail, ride share loading next to the existing loading area, and the remaining space is a way to get to the loading area from the lobby.

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[alatusllc]

I like it - that's what we were really going for - thinking about ride-sharing pick-up / drop-off and also something like the near future potential for a autonomous bus vehicles (larger autonomous rides). On the 12th Street frontage discussion, I want to make sure the retail meets the street level in a nicer and more accentuated manner than, say, Nic 365's facade does. That example seems VERY harsh - the building is just entirely coming down to the street level with very little attenuation. That's the reason for the step-back there.

[BikesOnFilm]

I want to make sure the retail meets the street level in a nicer and more accentuated manner than, say, Nic 365's facade does. That example seems VERY harsh - the building is just entirely coming down to the street level with very little attenuation.

Oh absolutely. I think I'm just trying to demonstrate that there's a lot of space there - it could be right up to the sidewalk with retail, or it could be set back to create more of a varied effect - but anything's better than nearly 5000sq ft for cars to turn around.

[SurlyLHT]

With regards to the 12th street frontage the white pillars could be used more as a means to draw people in if they were designed in a more aesthetically pleasing manner. The Voya building comes to my mind, but I'm sure there are plenty of other examples. Including some that'll better match your architectural style. They could become a gateway to the commercial spaces.

[bapster2006]

32 floors and 348ft to roof line. We should have full plans by June 11.

[bapster2006]

Here is the packet. 405 feet to the top of the spire.

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups ... 211473.pdf

[go4guy]

I like the new entrance much better now with that courtyard area. Great re-design

[John]

Beautiful tower that works well at both the base and on the skyline. Great addition to downtown Minneapolis.

[xandrex]

Glad to see the removal of the "arrival court." Still wish less of the first floor was devoted to parking, but this looks like a really solid project.

[alatusllc]

Thanks readers - feedback was really appreciated. This is a unique location, and by minimizing the overall total sqft dedicated to curb cuts, I think we have created a site plan that is not confusing for non-vehicular uses but is not confusing to vehiclar users either as that mode of transit hopefully continues to evolve from parking a privately owned car to maybe just getting a ride or ride-share.

[bapster2006]

This project is Approved.

[nBode]

This tower is better designed than the Gateway. Kudos to Alatus—they are clearly the best developer in town.

[atburns]

Does anyone know if the Target-esque video board feature ended up being included in the approved design?

[Silophant]

Looks like it. The decorative lighting feature surrounds the rooftop equipment and is about 50' tall, then the spire (also lit) is another 58' taller than that. It's not clear whether they're actual video boards like Target and the Guthrie, or if they're color washes like the 35W bridge, etc.