The Dayton's Project
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- Wells Fargo Center
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Re: The Once and Future Dayton's
Oh hey, let's make this Dayton's Food Market thread about Skyways and those who Love them vs those who Loath them!
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- Nicollet Mall
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Re: The Once and Future Dayton's
Getting those 51k trips/people down two floors to the lower level for a food court will be one of the biggest challenges for this project, I think. People don't even leave the skyway for ground floor retail... The two level atrium will have to be pretty enticing.
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The skyroom and lower-level food court in Macy's were always pretty busy. If it's good enough food, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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That is good to know. I didn't have much experience in the food court or skyway level retail before Macy's closed. The new atrium will only help that cross flow.
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Office tenants will be on the upper floors. This won't be like a Mayo Clinic Square where there's already limited space for offices. I wouldn't be shocked if one of those larger spaces on the Skyway level was snagged by a smaller office though.
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Wasn't there speculation based on the early leaked plans that the Pinstripes that had been proposed for the Guthrie ramp liner parcel might end up here?
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Yeah, those first leaked plans had a bowling alley in that big space in the back of the basement.
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The math on this seems a little sketchy. Based on the slide, it really seems like the comparable figure should be the 15,100 people noted in the City Center skyway (or maybe a slightly busier USBancorp skyway). The 51k figure must be double counting a lot of people, and also includes the traffic crossing Nicollet Mall from the IDS, which would probably be attributed to 7th and 8th Street in the street-level pedestrian comp.51k daily skyway trips vs 20k pedestrians on Nicollet mall ...sigh...
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Yeah, looks like they just summed up all the skyway traffic counts. Which means, since there's no destinations or even a street connection in Dayton's any more, they're not just double counting a lot of people, they're double counting everyone.
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- Landmark Center
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Yes, FAKE NEWS... nobody uses skyways we can tear them down and make street sidewalks GREAT AGAIN!
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The downtown council was having a PACKED standing room only meeting in the room on the skyway level of Daytons by IDS. Looked like there was a presentation happening on screen. Anyone know about this?
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No one knows what went down?
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It was a quarterly meeting on the "Future of Downtown Retail"
https://www.mplsdowntown.com/event/2025 ... wn-retail/
https://www.mplsdowntown.com/event/2025 ... wn-retail/
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- IDS Center
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Well that's why it was taking so long. I did not know that there was interior designation for the tax credits.
https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... s_headline
Settled on a smaller atrium near the IDS skyway.The $214 million redevelopment of the historic Dayton’s store in downtown Minneapolis is ramping up now that the project team and National Park Service are in agreement on a major design sticking point.
The two sides had been at odds over a planned three-level atrium that will allow visitors to look from the skyway all the way to a below-grade level, where a food hall is planned.
The development team... wanted a roughly 2,500-square-foot atrium on the skyway level. But the National Park Service, which has authority over approving historic tax credits, argued that Dayton’s didn’t have an atrium — those are a feature of indoor mall...
https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... s_headline
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- IDS Center
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Re: The Once and Future Dayton's
How much smaller?
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So making it what...5-10 feet narrower all the way around at most? Not much difference.
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But now it passes “historical” muster. I guess?
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http://m.startribune.com/development-te ... 507567492/
Food hall spring 2020. They have so acquired the Dayton's trademark.
Food hall spring 2020. They have so acquired the Dayton's trademark.
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Applying for National Register Designation, likely to access funding/ tax breaks. http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups ... 218299.pdf
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