IDS 2:
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Misc Proposal 1:
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Misc Proposal 2:
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Neat eh?
Necessary repost.The breathtaking and visionary IDS 2 proposal was hands down the best skyscraper design ever proposed in Minneapolis. It would have completely transformed downtown and set off a remarkable urban renaissance unprecedented in the history of our city.
Ha! I revised it to make it even more high drama verbiage! Lucky for you!Necessary repost.The breathtaking and visionary IDS 2 proposal was hands down the best skyscraper design ever proposed in Minneapolis. It would have completely transformed downtown and set off a remarkable urban renaissance unprecedented in the history of our city.
Elf, you might be my hero for that. Also, as a professionally-trained historian I have to say these kinds of grand, sweeping counterfactual statements bother me a lot. Here's the thing: if a single tower of that magnitude had opened at that time, there's no reason to assume it would have "set off a remarkable urban renaissance" - because cities are governed by complex economic models of supply and demand, not by architectural fans' dreams of towering downtowns. Downtown Minneapolis has maintained a pretty healthy office environment (at least from a commercial rent perspective) largely because supply has been kept reasonably close to demand, without a lot of big speculative projects. Minneapolis already has the fifth most Fortune 500 Companies headquartered here (source: CNN 2011) and there's no reason to assume there's a huge pent-up latent demand for new office space, especially at any point in the recent past. You can reasonably assume that a single big tower would have killed off several smaller office projects that *did* get built - it may not be a perfectly zero-sum game, but there's no reason to assume a single tower would create enough demand not to create vacancy elsewhere.Necessary repost.The breathtaking and visionary IDS 2 proposal was hands down the best skyscraper design ever proposed in Minneapolis. It would have completely transformed downtown and set off a remarkable urban renaissance unprecedented in the history of our city.
Holy shucks, I just realized why I like it so much -- it looks like the Waterview Tower proposal for Chicago (the 1,000 footer that was thin like this and all residential, but I don't think it ever got built)!The breathtaking and visionary IDS 2 proposal was hands down the best skyscraper design ever proposed in Minneapolis. It would have been a transformative development and a catalyst for growth in our downtown for decades. The tallest tower would make a fantastic prototype design for the future tallest building in Minneapolis with it's blend of art deco references combined with a highly modernistic attitude. A wonderful synthesis of the architectural vernacular of our tallest buildings.
No, they're still "laughable".^^ For both of you above, the history of Minneapolis did not begin in the 1990's ! lol! All you need to do is take a look at Philip Johnson's IDS tower to see the huge influence one building can have. It clearly paved the way for Wells Fargo, Capella, and other projects to happen and changed the whole dynamics of what could be built in Minneapolis. Certainly IDS 2 would have had a similar impact on this city and its future. All these current stick built apartment projects going up downtown would have been a laughable joke if IDS 2 was built. As I have said before, some of us on this forum do have historical perspective because we actually were living when these visionary proposals for Minneapolis were occuring. Sorry to tell you , but with age comes a broader perspective than just textbook wisdom.
Landmarks Group and local developer Norman Kerr were pitching the Ritz Hotel block next to the Hennepin Cty Library. The hotel was demolished in 1990 in anticipation of securing IDS' lease.Does anyone know where the IDS 2 was to be built (site)?
Does anyone know the name for each of the other two proposals?
Interesting, but you still present no evidence that building a physical structure somehow begets growth. And you shouldn't condescend to others based on a sense that you must be older than them.^^ For both of you above, the history of Minneapolis did not begin in the 1990's ! lol! All you need to do is take a look at Philip Johnson's IDS tower to see the huge influence one building can have. It clearly paved the way for Wells Fargo, Capella, and other projects to happen and changed the whole dynamics of what could be built in Minneapolis. Certainly IDS 2 would have had a similar impact on this city and its future. All these current stick built apartment projects going up downtown would have been a laughable joke if IDS 2 was built. As I have said before, some of us on this forum do have historical perspective because we actually were living when these visionary proposals for Minneapolis were occuring. Sorry to tell you , but with age comes a broader perspective than just textbook wisdom.
I love the IDS, but this canonizing of the building, the oft retold lore that it was somehow the sheer audacity of its architecture that showed the benighted masses the way forward into a brave new world of skyscrapers... it makes a good story, but that's about it. The 70's and 80's were a time of massive speculative build-out of office towers across the country, driven (as near as I understand it) by changes in the tax code rather than an awakening sense of verticality in the hinterlands.All you need to do is take a look at Philip Johnson's IDS tower to see the huge influence one building can have. It clearly paved the way for Wells Fargo, Capella, and other projects to happen and changed the whole dynamics of what could be built in Minneapolis.
Lolthe oft retold lore that it was somehow the sheer audacity of its architecture that showed the benighted masses the way forward into a brave new world of skyscrapers...
The Proposals put it on the Sheraton Hotel site (next to the library), the Ritz was on Washington and 2nd.Landmarks Group and local developer Norman Kerr were pitching the Ritz Hotel block next to the Hennepin Cty Library. The hotel was demolished in 1990 in anticipation of securing IDS' lease.Does anyone know where the IDS 2 was to be built (site)?
Does anyone know the name for each of the other two proposals?
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